Broken?

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:56 pm

I got out the 94 bits-and-peices today and got to looking at the hammer again. I think I may have asked this question before, but I didn't have any pics to show.

Is this broken? It sure looks busted to me.

I am not really wanting to replace it cause it looks(to me) to be the original, and therefore, really cool.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:57 pm

Edited in italics: Yes, that's a definitely broken half-cock notch. It appears as though someone tried to fire it from the half-cock notch. While hammers are not currently available for that vintage, you can use a post 64 hammer that doesn't use the stirrup and this Hammer Kit from Numrich to make it work.

These two hammers are from later guns, on the left is a gold commemorative hammer from the '60s or early '70s, and the one on the right is a late '70s or even an AE (pre-rebounding). The gold one would work in your gun with the spring kit above. Although, the one on the right looks rough, the notch is smooth (relatively speaking as it's new) without the rough jagged edge yours shows.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:20 pm

Oh, I'm terribley sorry Griff. I was looking for "It's fine, put it back together like that". Better luck next time.

The thought of putting any kind of new part in it gives me the heeby-jeebies.

I don't see why it couldn't get a weld up and machined back to new?

Post by **Hobie** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:26 pm

Andrew wrote:Oh, I'm terribley sorry Griff. I was looking for "It's fine, put it back together like that". Better luck next time.

The thought of putting any kind of new part in it gives me the heeby-jeebies.

I don't see why it couldn't get a weld up and machined back to new?

You might could do that. Depends on the skill of the smith. That would be my choice. Expect it to be there for a while though.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:28 pm

Andrew wrote:Oh, I'm terribley sorry Griff. I was looking for "It's fine, put it back together like that". Better luck next time.

The thought of putting any kind of new part in it gives me the heeby-jeebies.

I don't see why it couldn't get a weld up and machined back to new?

Sorry, but... like the father of our country, "I cannot tell a lie."

I understand, totally.

It could. You just have to find the right Winchester "witch doctor" to be able to do that fine a work. You might be able to find the correct hammer... hmmmm. There's a post a while back with various sources of obsolete Winchester parts. There is a link to that list on Winchester's website.

Feel better now?

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:40 pm

Then again, what is vintage is your rifle? Does your have the "checkered" hammer spur, or the simple lines across its top surface?

Hmmm; for a price....

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:47 pm

I don't know if Nate can do that job, I'd first check with him. If he can't then I'd highly recommend Alan Harton. I guarantee he can do it. I just don't know his current work load.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:49 pm

Griff wrote:Then again, what is vintage is your rifle? Does your have the "checkered" hammer spur, or the simple lines across its top surface?

1906, checkered. I prefer the term "knurled", easier to say.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:04 pm

Andrew wrote:
Griff wrote:Then again, what is vintage is your rifle? Does your have the "checkered" hammer spur, or the simple lines across its top surface?

1906, checkered. I prefer the term "knurled", easier to say.

Well, then I'll just keep mine. (It isn't knurled)!

Kim gave you two good choices. I'll also suggest Mike Hunter of Hunter Restorations, but you'll likely need to call or email him to make sure.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:09 pm

Replace it. I wouldn't weld it, or have it welded - because the exact hardening will be forever lost.

JMO, but most broken like that were dropped on the hammer, or took a hard whack on same, while carried on the safety notch.

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:46 pm

Hammers of the stirrup style show up faily regularly on eBay.

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:50 pm

Here's one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Winchester-model-94 ... dZViewItem

Leverdude · Post by **Leverdude** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:15 pm

I might have one. If I do you can have it. I bought a handful of hammers awhile back & that looks familiar.
Is it like the one in Griffs picture?

I just went & looked. Mine looks similar to these. Its knurled with a little "whoop de do" on the top of the knurling. It measures .360 Thick.
I have no clue what its for other than the notches & stirrup mounting holes look like yours. I cant find my dang camera or I'd put up a picture.
Measure yours, if its about .360 & you want it you can have it.