Opinions on fee for CCW Permit

Bridger · Post by **Bridger** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:04 pm

In the past, in my county the fee for a pistol permit had been $10, which i think is ridiculous considering it is a right anyway. I knew prices were going to go up; the sheriff told me so because the county got a new system which actually prints out a hard card, just like a driver's license which is actually pretty nice. So up until today I had accepted that there is a fee and that was that. However, there is now a sign on the window saying that for people 65 or older the permit is still $10. For all people younger it is $20. That big time rubbed me the wrong way. I say it is wrong to discriminate against the rest of use just because we are younger, but the sheriff was not in for me to talk to. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like our sheriff, am on a first name basis with him, and plan to continue to vote for him. But I feel that having two different prices is flat out wrong and I am not happy about it. What do yall think about this situation? Is it worth any further action?

jhrosier · Post by **jhrosier** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:35 pm

Here in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts, a pistol permit is $100 for five years, and may be restricted to "target and hunting only" (NO concealed carry) or denied for no reason at the discretion of the local Chief of police. A first time applicant also needs a state approved firearms safety course which will cost $75 to $100. Approvals and renewals can take two months or more to be processed.

Trade ya

Jack

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:35 pm

Count yourself lucky. Our renewal fee has gone up to $67 for 4 years. Will gladly pay that. OH was a late comer to concealed carry.

jb

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:36 pm

Well, we pay a few bucks for a driver's license, too. We may not like it, but it does cost the government money to process the paper work. The solution is to pass laws that allow ccw without a permit. There are one or two states that work that way, but they still charge for a driver's license

jnyork · Post by **jnyork** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:00 pm

Bridger wrote: That big time rubbed me the wrong way. I say it is wrong to discriminate against the rest of use just because we are younger, ?

Just you keep on workin' hard, sonny, and keep payin' into the Social Security fund so us very deserving old geezers can continue livin' large.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:17 pm

In a hard-core Libertarian world there'd be no 'permits' for such an obvious right, but in a world of idiots and lawyers, a permit system of some sort is an unfortunate reality. (Remember we live in a world where people are stupid enough to vote Democrat - do you really want them carrying guns...???

)

I think everyone should be checked out and unless DISqualified for a legitimate reason, issued a CCW that is good everywhere (all states, all places, or at least including schools and so on). That should be at no charge.

(Maybe the folks who are legitimately DISqualified should pay fines for wasting everyone's time doing the checking, and for being a burden on society for not protecting themselves...

)

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:21 pm

I just re-newed, did it all by mail.
It was $45.00.
If it was $145.00 I would not have raised an eyebrow.
I will pay for a privilage.

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:27 pm

One pays for licenses to do just about anything from add a porch to drive to carry concealed. CHP here is $50 for 5 years or $10 per year (if you care to look at it that way). I have to pay $3 a year to keep my neutered dog. I have to pay a tax on my home every year or they will take it from me. One could lose one's home for failure to pay $1 in tax. So, do I own the house or not? Yeah, carrying concealed should be free, heck the criminals do it without paying, but it isn't.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:35 pm

Look at it this way, many folks @ 65 and up are retired and on a fixed income, is it right to discriminate against them on the basis of who can afford the higher fee? They may have a more pressing need for the protection of a CCW, so they don't have to be the victims of a younger, more vigorous criminal element.

I'm not there yet... but sure want the break when I get that age... don't you? I didn't find out the truck stop chain I frequent offered a senior discount for >55 until I was 59! 4 YEARS of payin' 10% more'n I shoulda! I'm gettin' even tho', whenever I'm joined by my son or friends under 55, I pick up the tab... and get the discount on EVERYONE'S meal!

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:38 pm

I am not entirely sure that is a winning strategy.???????

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:51 pm

Ours is for 5 years. Think it was 20$

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:54 pm

Five years, fifty bucks......Re Senior Discounts: By the time yer old enough to be dead, everything will be free

mod71alaska · Post by **mod71alaska** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:22 pm

I just applied for my resident NH carry license. NH is a "shall issue" state. Unless you are disqualifed for specified criminal or mental health reasons, the town must issue your license within 14 days or there are penalties against THEM! The fee is $10 for 4 years.

All things considered, it's just about the way it should be!

NH still believes in "Live Free or Die!"

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:13 pm

mod71alaska wrote:I just applied for my resident NH carry license. NH is a "shall issue" state. Ugnless you are disqualifed for specified criminal or mental health reasonns, the town must issue your license within 14 days or there are penalties against THEM! The fee is $10 for 4 years.

All things considered, it's just about the way it should be!

NH still believes in "Live Free or Die!"

No offense, but, why is BoBo leading then?

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:35 pm

Texas, class=$80-100.

Permit: $140.

Five years.

You're getting off easy.

Ray · Post by **Ray** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:39 pm

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Shasta · Post by **Shasta** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:20 am

In response to our rapidly rising crime rate here in Northern California, I recently decided to get a CCW permit. The six hour class was $125, then another $155 to the sheriff's office for fingerprinting and permit fees. Permit is good for only two years, and I can only carry guns listed on the permit, which is limited to three guns. The permit itself is just a slip of paper with my description and thumbprint on it. Not very durable!

The only real bright side to the whole experience was when I was entering the sheriff's office for my interview and verifcation of the serial numbers on my pistols, the Shasta County sheriff, Tom Bosenko, was just leaving and noticed my gun case. He inquired if I was there for a CCW permit, and I said I was. He firmly shook my hand and said "Thank you for getting a concealed weapons permit." That cheered me right up!

SHASTA

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:37 am

Ray,
Where the $%^& do you live?

Bridger · Post by **Bridger** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:15 am

Mescalaro, I am pretty sure we are both in Bama. I see all the points yall have raised, that is why I came here-to cool me off. My thing is, heck, I am in college and there are probably quite a bit of 65+ year olds that have more disposable money than I do. All I ask is that we be equal, no more no less. Now that I have calmed down, I think I am going to simply have a word with him next time I see him, and just explain what I think.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:28 am

I have not bought a gun in Az. for some years now,
but the last ones I bought, you just showed your DL and your CCW, filled out the paperwork and walked.
That alone is worth it to me.
I feel for the college guys, it is tough.
I always worked for corporations that had tuition assistance, all you had to do was maintain a decent GPA and they picked up thr tab.
That is probably another thing you will not see anymore.

Ray Newman · Post by **Ray Newman** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:48 pm

My thoughts:

First of all, see what Griff wrote.

And while you state that: " My thing is, heck, I am in college and there are probably quite a bit of 65+ year olds that have more disposable money than I do. All I ask is that we be equal, no more no less."

There is probably a great number of 30 and 40 year olds who have more money than college students and those over 65.

And as far as "equality", I recall what I always heard: "life is not easy and sure as h*ll ain't fair."

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:16 pm

Ahhhhhhh, nothin' personal but thats small potatos. Move on.----------Sixgun

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:31 pm

Reminds me, I need to check and see when my CHL is set to renew...

1894c · Post by **1894c** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:45 pm

revenue enhancement...tax... :(

tman · Post by **tman** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:38 pm

Even our God given rights have a hook in them. On priniciple, I hate paying the fee and constant renewal process. If I become a criminal, revoke the liscesne, If I don't leave it alone. In this electronic age it should be easy. The "practical side of me " feels it's a small price to pay

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:04 pm

It is, accept it.

igon51 · Post by **igon51** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:31 pm

Cost me $105 for the class and processing about 10 years ago...permit is lifetime (no renewal needed) or until you give them a reason to revoke it.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:34 pm

What state is that?
Seems like an intelligent way to deal with it.

igon51 · Post by **igon51** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:38 pm

Southwestern end of New York State, Chautauqua County...each county handles the process as it sees fit. I believe in Monroe County (in which the city of Rochester sits) they have a five year renewal plan.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:59 pm

Please do not be offended, but I would NOT have expected such logic from New York State,
an entity that seems to get a lot of bad press.

igon51 · Post by **igon51** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:07 pm

No offense taken...NY does a lot of dumb things, mostly downstate in Bloombergland which, by the way, will hopefully float off into the Atlantic in the next big storm!!

M. M. Wright · Post by **M. M. Wright** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:42 am

Here in OK the OSBI gets $100 for your background check and the county gets whatever they charge for fingerprint cards($20 for 2 sets) plus some charge a processing fee.

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:12 pm

Ray, pretty sure that redhead could get fired and you could get rich on a lawsuit for releasing your personal information to your employer without your consent. She'd also need a written consent TO contact your employer when that is not any of her business.

Might want to look into that.

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:04 pm

Now listen-------Absolutely no disrespect on statement below(and if you want you can substitute first three words in below sentence for something else.
I will say the exact statement I would say to anyone I care about-----------------------

Just------------shut up and GLADY pay it------and pick your fights at something less important----like a shirt supposed to be on sale at Walmart.

Not trying to be a smart a##-------but that dog(ain't worth hunting)

Behave(keep Sheriiff liking ya)-------------keep CCW

horsesoldier03 · Post by **horsesoldier03** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:54 am

In KS, the class cost me $75 and the permit was $150. I guess it boils down to what you value that aspect of your families safety as.

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:38 am

madman4570 wrote:Now listen-------Absolutely no disrespect on statement below(and if you want you can substitute first three words in below sentence for something else.
I will say the exact statement I would say to anyone I care about-----------------------

Just------------shut up and GLADY pay it------and pick your fights at something less important----like a shirt supposed to be on sale at Walmart.

Not trying to be a smart a##-------but that dog(ain't worth hunting)

Behave(keep Sheriiff liking ya)-------------keep CCW

To clear up any possible confusion-----when I say (pick less important fights)there are many fights extremely important(worth the fight)but you have to understand this one($10)deal on this extremely important issue(OF JUST KEEPING YOUR CCW)and the POSSIBLE (bad)issues you might get in return by doing so---------this ain't one.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:14 am

My thoughts/actions:

I (like many here) did my time (in US military service), and ergo my CCW cost = $0 - since the right dates back to 1776.

I take seriously the "concealed" part of CCW, and NOBODY ever sees/knows I'm heeled until my (or a loved one's) life is endangered.

IMHO, if/when that happens, ALL other considerations are secondary.

YMMV, of course - This is, after all, America.

.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:44 pm

I am not sure what to read into that Pete, but taking into consideration where you live; that complicate things for you.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:55 pm

Oh, I dunno Mescelaro - I've only needed/drawn SD once (in NC), in mid-1966. (no shot fired)

NP then, or since - so (so far) any "complications" seem to be in the minds of the few others (all friends) that find out I CCW.

When I CCW, I'm polite (an armed society IS a polite society), and am never on the prod or "sensitive"/"touchy".

.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:40 pm

For the most part I forget it's there, because it always is; but I never really forget.

Stan in SC · Post by **Stan in SC** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:14 pm

Cost in South Carolina is $50 for four years.

Stan in SC

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:08 pm

Yes, it's not fair, as senior usually have tens of thousands socked away, paid off homes, etc. I noticed my Dad's Social Security check was only about $300 less per month than what I get for working full time, and it took me decades to get it up to that!

However a senior discount is a time-honored thing. I often get the senior coffee at McDonald's if the girl likes me. One optical place I worked gave a senior discount, and 95% of the clientele qualified for it since the doctor's specialty was cataract surgery.

I could see it as a marketing tool, for example, a restaurant that wanted to attract seniors. But not as a government gift, that's just a way of shifting the burden to the younger. But, like I said, it's a time-honored thing.

By the way, I can only DREAM of getting a CCW, in Los Angeles County, only Robert Blake has one. But I did have to pay $25 and take a test to BUY A HANDGUN.

That's right; in order to buy a handgun here, you have to have a Handgun Safety Card, which costs $25.00.

BAGTIC · Post by **BAGTIC** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:38 am

Many people under 65 are unemployed or trying to raise a family. By the time you are 65 you should have that out of the way.

Are drivers licenses, auto registration, sales taxes, property taxes, etc. lower for seniors?

I suspect it is because seniors are more likely to vote than younger people especially if you pay/bribe them.