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Not "Levergunny" enough?
Look at the picture of Maxim's Patent Application as shown on pg 74 of the Rifleman...
Gee, kinda looks like a levergun...
Look at the picture of Maxim's Patent Application as shown on pg 74 of the Rifleman...
Gee, kinda looks like a levergun...
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Check these babies out...
I'd love to have a suppressor on my Rossi 92 44MAG for use with 44SPL loads.
I'd love to have a suppressor on my Rossi 92 44MAG for use with 44SPL loads.
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just duct tape a potatoe on.
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Taylor's Tactical 1911 A1 FS in .45acp
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Henry .22 lever, Remington speedmaster 552 .22 lr
Marlin Glenfield .22 boltaction
gforce 12ga semi
Taylor's Tactical 1911 A1 FS in .45acp
winchester 1873 44.40
Marlin 336W .30.30
beeman sportsman rs2 dual caliber pellet rifle
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Just get the barrel threaded - you'll need to shorten the magazine tube by one round (or more if you want). I forget the standard thread size/pitch for .45 ACP type guns, but a .45 ACP suppressor should work fine with subsonic .44 Special loads.Irelander wrote:I'd love to have a suppressor on my Rossi 92 44MAG for use with 44SPL loads.
You can just buy the suppressor 'on-line' if there are no Class-III dealers in your area, then once the purchase is complete and you 'own' a suppressor with a specific serial number, they send you the paperwork to fill out. Two passport-photos and a $200 'tax' [yeah, I know ], and then just wait for the 'background check'. Mine took about six months, maybe a bit less.
I recommend Libertycans.com and ThompsonMachine.com - both are quality outfits, and you can email or call with questions and get solid answers.
Yes, the total project might cost up to $1,000, but you'll have a gun that is as unique and valuable as any 'vintage' type collectable one, and probably even more valuable if times get 'rough'. Of course the suppressor can be used on any other similar-or-lesser pressure, or diameter, cartridges, so even though the bore-size is different, you'd be able to use it on .38 Special, 9mm, .22 Hormet, and with most of them, .223 subsonic.
The Liberty 'Mystic' is only .357/9mm caliber, but is rated even for .308 Winchester IF you're shooting sub-sonic loads (which are the only ones going to be really quiet anyway).
Strongly consider getting a can that is able to be taken apart for cleaning. That adds some cost and some weight, because it's easiest to make a won't-blow-up can by just welding everything tight, but if you can take it apart, it will last forever even if you use 'dirty' cast-bullet loads or wax-coated rimfires.
A centerfire-capable suppressor, even if way over-bore (i.e. one in .45 caliber), will do a great job of suppressing .22 LR, so you theoretically could meet ALL your needs with just one suppressor, constructed in the highest-diameter you anticipate needing.
I have a Gemtech 'Trek' made for .223 that is welded, and a very nice can for my Mini-14 (makes it sound like disconnecting an air-hose from an impact tool, even with super-sonics - never shot subsonic .223's yet), and I do use it for .22 LR (even with a Mark-III/45 pistol it really isn't that annoying weight-wise, vs. the dedicated rimfire cans, but it IS larger-diameter, so you need high sights or a red-dot scope), but due to the difficulty of keeping it clean (solvents seem to work, but you know there's crud accumulating from the dirty .22 LR rounds), I can't wait until I get my Mystic .357/9mm can to use on my .22's, since it can be taken apart to clean. Plus, I can still use it on .223's once I get some subsonic loads going, if I want. Mostly I want the Mystic for the .300 AAC Blackout and a 9mm carbine I have, though.
Suppressors are really fun, and yeah, they are expensive, but by the time most folks get around to buying them, they have spent far more money on far less useful 'gun' stuff, so it is all a matter of perspective.
They are also the BEST single thing equipment-wise for training new shooters. A suppressed .22 LR allows them to shoot without anticipating what to a 'newbie' is a LOUD noise of that .22 LR going off. I've taught newbies both ways, and it always makes a difference.
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I wonder how mine out door target ranges would be saved from closing, if sound suppresser was use at them, to prevent.
Noise pollution, where is the EPA when you need them? Suppressors also prevents hearing loss ,and you shouldn't need a ATF class three license to by them.
Noise pollution, where is the EPA when you need them? Suppressors also prevents hearing loss ,and you shouldn't need a ATF class three license to by them.
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The idgit that owns the 338 Lapua I was messing with a month or two ago got a suppressor for that cannon . This guy is a Class 3 dealer and actually builds suppressors but he didn't build his own for his cannon .
To be totally honest I never had an intrest in suppressors/silencers until maybe a year ago . And now I think I may have gotten over it LOL's .
To be totally honest I never had an intrest in suppressors/silencers until maybe a year ago . And now I think I may have gotten over it LOL's .
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Yep - if anything, you should have to have a 'license' to NOT use one. . .tomtex wrote:Noise pollution, where is the EPA when you need them? Suppressors also prevents hearing loss ,and you shouldn't need a ATF class three license to by them.
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New advocacy group - ASU...
Audiologists for Suppressor Use?
Audiologists for Suppressor Use?
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מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
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מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976
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I have a TAC65 suppressor for my .22s and I really love it. It is a user serviceable can so that is nice when it gets crudded up. I am planning to have it rebuilt by Huntertown Arms with their SS Kestrel baffle stack. It will be a nice upgrade for a cheap can.AJMD429 wrote:Just get the barrel threaded - you'll need to shorten the magazine tube by one round (or more if you want). I forget the standard thread size/pitch for .45 ACP type guns, but a .45 ACP suppressor should work fine with subsonic .44 Special loads.Irelander wrote:I'd love to have a suppressor on my Rossi 92 44MAG for use with 44SPL loads.
You can just buy the suppressor 'on-line' if there are no Class-III dealers in your area, then once the purchase is complete and you 'own' a suppressor with a specific serial number, they send you the paperwork to fill out. Two passport-photos and a $200 'tax' [yeah, I know ], and then just wait for the 'background check'. Mine took about six months, maybe a bit less.
I recommend Libertycans.com and ThompsonMachine.com - both are quality outfits, and you can email or call with questions and get solid answers.
Yes, the total project might cost up to $1,000, but you'll have a gun that is as unique and valuable as any 'vintage' type collectable one, and probably even more valuable if times get 'rough'. Of course the suppressor can be used on any other similar-or-lesser pressure, or diameter, cartridges, so even though the bore-size is different, you'd be able to use it on .38 Special, 9mm, .22 Hormet, and with most of them, .223 subsonic.
The Liberty 'Mystic' is only .357/9mm caliber, but is rated even for .308 Winchester IF you're shooting sub-sonic loads (which are the only ones going to be really quiet anyway).
Strongly consider getting a can that is able to be taken apart for cleaning. That adds some cost and some weight, because it's easiest to make a won't-blow-up can by just welding everything tight, but if you can take it apart, it will last forever even if you use 'dirty' cast-bullet loads or wax-coated rimfires.
A centerfire-capable suppressor, even if way over-bore (i.e. one in .45 caliber), will do a great job of suppressing .22 LR, so you theoretically could meet ALL your needs with just one suppressor, constructed in the highest-diameter you anticipate needing.
I have a Gemtech 'Trek' made for .223 that is welded, and a very nice can for my Mini-14 (makes it sound like disconnecting an air-hose from an impact tool, even with super-sonics - never shot subsonic .223's yet), and I do use it for .22 LR (even with a Mark-III/45 pistol it really isn't that annoying weight-wise, vs. the dedicated rimfire cans, but it IS larger-diameter, so you need high sights or a red-dot scope), but due to the difficulty of keeping it clean (solvents seem to work, but you know there's crud accumulating from the dirty .22 LR rounds), I can't wait until I get my Mystic .357/9mm can to use on my .22's, since it can be taken apart to clean. Plus, I can still use it on .223's once I get some subsonic loads going, if I want. Mostly I want the Mystic for the .300 AAC Blackout and a 9mm carbine I have, though.
Suppressors are really fun, and yeah, they are expensive, but by the time most folks get around to buying them, they have spent far more money on far less useful 'gun' stuff, so it is all a matter of perspective.
They are also the BEST single thing equipment-wise for training new shooters. A suppressed .22 LR allows them to shoot without anticipating what to a 'newbie' is a LOUD noise of that .22 LR going off. I've taught newbies both ways, and it always makes a difference.
If I had the cash to throw around, I'd be into an AAC TiRant45 or a SilencerCo Osprey45. I might even be able to use the factory sights on my '92 with the Osprey. The Thompson QMF-2 sounds cool as well as the Liberty Miranda. Need to check out their sound test numbers though. Wish I had the cash. There was a time that I thought about selling most of my guns and just having a few guns that all had suppressors. I still kick the idea around once in a while.
What .300BLK gun do you have? I've considered converting my Rem 700 to .300BLK since 500+ yard shooting is a rarity in this part of PA.
Do you have a levergun that is suppressor ready?
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The only suppressed levergun I have is an integrally-suppressed Ruger 96/22, made up using a Thompson Machine 'Operative' model made for the Ruger 10/22. I had thought about using it on a Ruger 77/22, but the shank of the barrel is different, whereas the 10/22 and 96/22 are identical except 96 barrels have a second extractor-cut. I just filed the second cut by hand and dropped the Operative right in. Works like a charm, and is of course far quieter on the levergun than it would have been on the rattly-action semiauto.Irelander wrote:Do you have a levergun that is suppressor ready?
Like you, I've thought about adding a can to a Rossi 92 - a 16" .357 Mag would be a natural, and the Liberty 'Mystic' should fit the role nicely using subsonics, and leave the gun balancing about like the longer-barreled versions do.
The 300 BLK I found was a S&W, and it seems decent enough; 1:7.5" twist was just what I wanted.
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Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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Sweet! I've been eyeing up the Operative for a while now. Too bad they don't make the 96/22 anymore.AJMD429 wrote:The only suppressed levergun I have is an integrally-suppressed Ruger 96/22, made up using a Thompson Machine 'Operative' model made for the Ruger 10/22. I had thought about using it on a Ruger 77/22, but the shank of the barrel is different, whereas the 10/22 and 96/22 are identical except 96 barrels have a second extractor-cut. I just filed the second cut by hand and dropped the Operative right in. Works like a charm, and is of course far quieter on the levergun than it would have been on the rattly-action semiauto.Irelander wrote:Do you have a levergun that is suppressor ready?
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