7mm Mauser range report

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7mm Mauser range report

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Here 'ya go, Jason. I have been testing different powder and bullet combos trying to dial in the little 7X57 that I bought from Joe(86er) last year. It really is a sweet little 93 that seems to thrive at it's maximum SAAMI specs of 46000 CUP.

The first load was 42.7 grs IMR 4064 under Barnes 120 grn Tipped TSX bullets. All of my brass is new PPU that has had the primer pockets uniformed and run through the RCBS sizing die. Primers are Winchester Large Rifle and Magnum in the red box. MVs of this load were 2765, 2763, 2745, 2756 and 2760 FPS. All case were clean and ejected easily. Here is the subject target.
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Next was the same 120 TTSX only this time pushed by 44 grs IMR 4320. Not too bad, either. Velocities by my Apha Master Chrony registered 2795, 2818, 2779, 2781, and 2786 FPS. Again, the cases slicked right out and showed no indicators of pressure issues. Group not too bad considering that my shooting glasses are not prescription.
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The third test was a bit different in two respects. First, the bullets were Hornady's Gilded Metal Expanding lead free 139 grainers with 44 grs IMR 4320 under them. The group opened up to atrocious, but in all fairness I have been told that the powder was wrong for this bullet. IMR 4350, which I have none of, is supposed to be the cat's azz for this bullet. MVs were 2800, 2785, 2792, 2798, and 2793 FPS. This is the sad target.
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Lastly, I returned to the 120 TTSX with 44 grs Varget under them. MVs read 2880, 2877, 2879, 2886, and 2887 FPS. The target demonstrates the moderate accuracy of this load.
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The 7X57 is, like any other rifle, a work in progress. First on the agenda will be to buy some IMR 4350. I also have a box of 145 gr Barnes TTSXs to whack away with. To be continued... :)
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Looks like you got a real sweet shooting rifle in the works, a fine deer gun.
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Man, that range report could be used as a teaching tool for folks who think that they have a "bad gun" because it won't shoot whatever the first load they stick in it accurately. Look how different that gun shoots with a different load...!
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I just saw that the second target failed to come up so here it is. :)

Next was the same 120 TTSX only this time pushed by 44 grs IMR 4320. Not too bad, either. Velocities by my Apha Master Chrony registered 2795, 2818, 2779, 2781, and 2786 FPS. Again, the cases slicked right out and showed no indicators of pressure issues. Group not too bad considering that my shooting glasses are not prescription.
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Nice work, Mike!
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86er wrote:Nice work, Mike!
ThanKs, Joe, it is sweet little rifle. Look out mule deer come fall. Blacktails better take notice come 11 August, too. :D
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I bet it feels just great to shoot too! Doesn't hammer the snuff outta ya etc.

Great report!!

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They look good, did you check the throat of the barrel and find what the lead is before the rifling. I am not sure but there some comment years back a lot the these rifles were chambered for the long round nosed jacketed bullets and had long leads. The thinking was if possible have a shorter barrel lead. Don't know if it is or was true. Good luck in your search and enjoyment.
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Cliff wrote:They look good, did you check the throat of the barrel and find what the lead is before the rifling. I am not sure but there some comment years back a lot the these rifles were chambered for the long round nosed jacketed bullets and had long leads. The thinking was if possible have a shorter barrel lead. Don't know if it is or was true. Good luck in your search and enjoyment.
You are correct, Cliff. The 93/95/96 Mausers in 7X57 were chambered for the early 173 grn RNFMJ bullet but shoot the lighter ones just fine.
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I dont know about IMR4350 but looove H4350.

I use to use Alliant rl15 and 19 in my 6.5x55.

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Mike,

You forgot a picture of the rifle!! :D

I've had a bunch of 7x57's and they've all been good shooters.

I had good luck with IMR 4198 as well as IMR 4064. I have a cast load with Unique but I can remember the bullet/charge
weight off the top of my head. Have to be VERY careful with that one.

:D :D

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Image :D
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That's sharp!! :D

What did it start out as?

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'93 Mauser of unknown origin. No military markings remaining other than serial number 21218X and a few others. Out of Africa and marked .275 Rigby on the barrel.
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My Mauser is similar and South American, shoots the 173/174 better than the light loads. Military barrel.

I've hit a silhouette at 250m with it without much problems. No animals as of yet.
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Mike that wood looks great sir......nice rifle....

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Ooooo.... that is a gorgeous looking Mauser! And a beautiful quarter-sawn oak sideboard off to the side. I have a weakness for antique quarter sawn oak furniture.
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Mike D. wrote:Image :D
On the left side under the front scope mount, is that a gas port? If so, it's Spanish I believe.
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Yes, oval gas port. It has the flat bottom two lug bolt of the 93/95.
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I added an adjustable Timney trigger. MUCH more positive than the old two stage military one.
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OK, it's a Spanish 1893 that had the Model 1916 gas port added between 1917 and 1922 and was tastefully sporterized (IMO) later on. This site would be well worth perusing: http://masterton.us/Spanmauhome

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After closer inspection the serial number is actually 2I218X. The letter "I", not a 1 after the first number.
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What a gracefull classic you have 8)

Excellent read gents as ever.

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Mike D. wrote:After closer inspection the serial number is actually 2I218X. The letter "I", not a 1 after the first number.
That should be a 1922 production Oviedo and probably had the gas port from the get go IIRC.

Just for giggles, how long is the barrel and does it look like it was cut down?
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After a closer look, the rifle has the markings under the front scope mount but they are not entirely visible. What I can see is "Fabri...rmas. The original military barrel is 22" and crowned.
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Had pretty good luck with H4831.
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Mike D. wrote:After a closer look, the rifle has the markings under the front scope mount but they are not entirely visible. What I can see is "Fabri...rmas. The original military barrel is 22" and crowned.
Fabrica de Armas Oviedo

Originally it wore a 29" barrel but at least one importer cropped them back to 22", recrowned the muzzle and remounted the front sight.
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Thankfully, there is no front sight to intrude. I agree that the barrel has likely been cut and crowned. It does have a nice bore, though. :)
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