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Call it what you want.
As an NRA certified rifle instructor, I'm frustrated by the abomination of something that gets under my skin almost daily, that is: the correct pronunciation of "Garand". If I'm not mistaken, it should be properly pronounced "'Gerund", similar to "errand" and not "Ga'RAND". However, I don't think I've ever heard the proper pronunciation used anywhere, whether it be at the local gun store or Camp Perry. Let's all make an effort to correct this travesty of speech and honor John C. Garand in a manner befitting his family name!
Please join me in an effort to get everyone in the same boat.
Please join me in an effort to get everyone in the same boat.
Tom
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Re: Call it what you want.
I have heard the same thing regarding pronunciation. However, as they said in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence: "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend".
You will not be successful in your endeavor and may just make yourself look like a bit of a tool by trying to change the generally accepted pronunciation of the name.
If you want to go to war over something, smite down the inappropriate use of 'clip' as a synonym for magazine.
You will not be successful in your endeavor and may just make yourself look like a bit of a tool by trying to change the generally accepted pronunciation of the name.
If you want to go to war over something, smite down the inappropriate use of 'clip' as a synonym for magazine.
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Re: Call it what you want.
It is pronounced Ga-Rand. Mr. Garand's grandaughter works at company that I work with when I have a
project out her way. She answers the phone Ga-Rand.
hope that helps.
project out her way. She answers the phone Ga-Rand.
hope that helps.
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Re: Call it what you want.
I've got that one completely under control, at least among 30-some 4-H kids that I instruct.K1500 wrote:If you want to go to war over something, smite down the inappropriate use of 'clip' as a synonym for magazine.
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Re: Call it what you want.
This is a grrrand topic.
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Re: Call it what you want.
You say Gur-rend, I'll say Ga-Rand. You say Sock-O, I'll say SAY-KO.
The one that twists my knickers is "shottie" instead of shotgun. Oh, and
'prolly instead of probably.
The one that twists my knickers is "shottie" instead of shotgun. Oh, and
'prolly instead of probably.
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Re: Call it what you want.
Oh hell no - the worst one is "Lee-a-pold".
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Re: Call it what you want.
UhOh'prolly instead of probably
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Re: Call it what you want.
To-may-to, To-mot-to, po-tay-to, po-tot-to, let's call the whole thing off!
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Re: Call it what you want.
if they'd learn how to merge and use turn signals I think I would tolerate any pronunciation.
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Re: Call it what you want.
The one that makes my skin crawl is when someone (usually a radiologist) pronounces the word 'centimeter' as if it is spelled 'Sonnometer'.
Are there one hundred 'sonts' in a dollar, or is 100 years a 'sontury'...?
I assume it is some sort of Euro-wannabe affectation, but it just makes them sound incredibly stupid when I hear it.
Are there one hundred 'sonts' in a dollar, or is 100 years a 'sontury'...?
I assume it is some sort of Euro-wannabe affectation, but it just makes them sound incredibly stupid when I hear it.
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Re: Call it what you want.
I'd rather they put down their cell phones first....Idahoser wrote:if they'd learn how to merge and use turn signals I think I would tolerate any pronunciation.
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Re: Call it what you want.
I don't know, I think all of this is crossing the fastidious line.
The only thing that gets me upset are people who get upset - or something like that.
The only thing that gets me upset are people who get upset - or something like that.
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That could turn into a viscious circle!bulldog1935 wrote:I don't know, I think all of this is crossing the fastidious line.
The only thing that gets me upset are people who get upset - or something like that.
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Prolly a childhood thang...claybob86 wrote:That could turn into a viscious circle!bulldog1935 wrote:I don't know, I think all of this is crossing the fastidious line.
The only thing that gets me upset are people who get upset - or something like that.
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If yer gonna use a "southron" affectation, at least spell it right... THA'ING. Remember, down south, we make every word at least TWO syllables!BlaineG wrote:Prolly a childhood thang...claybob86 wrote:That could turn into a viscious circle!bulldog1935 wrote:I don't know, I think all of this is crossing the fastidious line.
The only thing that gets me upset are people who get upset - or something like that.
Oh yeah, it should be spelt "PRO'BLY"... the "B" ain't silent!
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That's a Ahia thang.....don't use no Reb talkin'...Griff wrote:If yer gonna use a "southron" affectation, at least spell it right... THA'ING. Remember, down south, we make every word at least TWO syllables!BlaineG wrote:Prolly a childhood thang...claybob86 wrote:That could turn into a viscious circle!bulldog1935 wrote:I don't know, I think all of this is crossing the fastidious line.
The only thing that gets me upset are people who get upset - or something like that.
Oh yeah, it should be spelt "PRO'BLY"... the "B" ain't silent!
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Re: Call it what you want.
No kidding, this is my favorite subject to complain about, cell phones being #2, only cuz I see idiots "merge" with out turn signals, wile not using their cell phones!!Idahoser wrote:if they'd learn how to merge and use turn signals I think I would tolerate any pronunciation.
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Re: Call it what you want.
Beat me to that one. I'm still not sure what's correct. I just point.Triggernosis wrote:Oh hell no - the worst one is "Lee-a-pold".
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Re: Call it what you want.
I think that I've got the Garand thing figured out but what about Lapua? I would like to know how it is supposed to be pronounced.
Re: Call it what you want.
La POO ahdamienph wrote:I think that I've got the Garand thing figured out but what about Lapua? I would like to know how it is supposed to be pronounced.
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Re: Call it what you want.
I don't ever say anything but it grates on me when people spell the word separate as seperate.
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The more I listen,the more I hear....and vice versa.
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Re: Call it what you want.
That's what I thought too but I had some "hootie tootie" shooter tell me it was LapWah. I'm going to stick with Lapooah.BlaineG wrote:La POO ahdamienph wrote:I think that I've got the Garand thing figured out but what about Lapua? I would like to know how it is supposed to be pronounced.
Re: Call it what you want.
My two biggest mistakes, and no offense if you say it this way, as it's become the accepted speech it seems like, are ek-specially instead of especially, and #1 is ek-scape instead of escape. Drives me absolutely nuts.
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Re: Call it what you want.
That's not only true of the south. Them yanks can get 3 syllables out of "oil" - o-ee-ull. We all know there's only 1 syllable in oil - "all".Griff wrote:If yer gonna use a "southron" affectation, at least spell it right... THA'ING. Remember, down south, we make every word at least TWO syllables!
Oh yeah, it should be spelt "PRO'BLY"... the "B" ain't silent!
Re: Call it what you want.
BOy, PICKY PIcky,I aint gunna say nuthen cuz it Prolly wunt matter no how.
I say Garrand , U say Garund, they will know what I am talking about if the conversation is about Guns,for some I might have to put M1 in front of Garrand.
Hope I don't get in trouble over this one, but beings We r on the subject.
Perry
I say Garrand , U say Garund, they will know what I am talking about if the conversation is about Guns,for some I might have to put M1 in front of Garrand.
Hope I don't get in trouble over this one, but beings We r on the subject.
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I'm an MRI tech, I'll be sure to give the Rad grief over his pronunciationAJMD429 wrote:The one that makes my skin crawl is when someone (usually a radiologist) pronounces the word 'centimeter' as if it is spelled 'Sonnometer'.
Are there one hundred 'sonts' in a dollar, or is 100 years a 'sontury'...?
I assume it is some sort of Euro-wannabe affectation, but it just makes them sound incredibly stupid when I hear it.
It irks me too........
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Re: Call it what you want.
Hors D'oeuvres.........those darn French and their Horses Ovaries.
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Re: Call it what you want.
More like "awwllll"Chas. wrote:That's not only true of the south. Them yanks can get 3 syllables out of "oil" - o-ee-ull. We all know there's only 1 syllable in oil - "all".
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Re: Call it what you want.
So, let me axe you guys sumthin
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Re: Call it what you want.
Even less chance snuffing that one out as the dreaded .45 LONG Colt. Aint gonna happen! I'm exspecially sure of it.
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Re: Call it what you want.
But don't get me started on CALvary used when people are talking about the CAValry!!
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Re: Call it what you want.
Oh, and when did "You're welcome" morph into "No problem"?
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Re: Call it what you want.
wow--my Uncle who was a lifer in the Marine Corp. called it his rifle... :)
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Re: Call it what you want.
Usually hear it pronounced the same way as in this original Rifle US Cal .30 M1 training film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo0NLKAvmDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo0NLKAvmDM
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Re: Call it what you want.
.........and then there are those folks that call a muzzle a crown. Uhgg.
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Re: Call it what you want.
OK, I admit it - I want to slap people who say irregardless.
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Slap away.bulldog1935 wrote:OK, I admit it - I want to slap people who say irregardless.
Proper? No. But, let me axe you this, when has that stopped the largely unwashed masses from mutilating the mish-mash we call English?Merriam-Webster Dictionary wrote:ir·re·gard·less adv \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
Definition of IRREGARDLESS
nonstandard
: regardless
Usage Discussion of IRREGARDLESS
Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
Examples of IRREGARDLESS
I told them that irregardless of what you read in books, they's some members of the theatrical profession that occasionally visits the place where they sleep. —Ring Lardner, The Big Town, 1921
Origin of IRREGARDLESS
probably blend of irrespective and regardless
First Known Use: circa 1912
Griff,
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Re: Call it what you want.
I'm not going to slap you, you're armed and fairly dangerous
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Re: Call it what you want.
I'm an NRA instructor also. I alwas spend 10 minutes talking about the incorrect terminology.......
CLIP = Magazine
REVOLVER = pistol
BULLET = Cartridge
SHELL = Cartridge
PICATINNTY = Pic-a-nee
ARISAKA = Ar-is-ka
Anyone have any others?
CLIP = Magazine
REVOLVER = pistol
BULLET = Cartridge
SHELL = Cartridge
PICATINNTY = Pic-a-nee
ARISAKA = Ar-is-ka
Anyone have any others?
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Edinburgh (edin borough)
Worcestershire (wooster shire)
Alnwick (ann ic)
Gloucester (glau ster)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_na ... unciations
English is a dang-complicated language - if you don't believe me, try reading Beowulf
we should all speak Spanish - much easier.
Worcestershire (wooster shire)
Alnwick (ann ic)
Gloucester (glau ster)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_na ... unciations
English is a dang-complicated language - if you don't believe me, try reading Beowulf
we should all speak Spanish - much easier.
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German also, if you can get your tongue around those hard consonants!
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There is a fine line between hobby & obsession!
AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
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There is a fine line between hobby & obsession!
AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
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they go hand in hand. The Britons are now the Welsh - both the Angles and Saxons were Germanic tribes. The Celts and the Picts were the Caledonians, and the Scots were Gaelic invaders from Ireland.
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It may be just the line of work I am, don't know if it bothers any one else, but I guaranty you if you watch your local news station the next time they have a paving project going on and they show double drum asphault compactor of any make it will be called a STEAM roller. I'll bet no one has ever manufactured a steam roller for over 75 years.
The other one is any thing with a bucket and a boom is a Backhoe. Doesn't matter if its a excavator, or a giant mining shovel.
The other one is any thing with a bucket and a boom is a Backhoe. Doesn't matter if its a excavator, or a giant mining shovel.
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Re: Call it what you want.
Just say M1
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The neat thing about this great country is all the different accents. I live in Central Illinois and have all my life but I have more of a southern accent than my Mom who grew up in Kentucky. I'm always asked where I came from. I tell people I've lived here all my life and they ask why I talk that way. My brother moved to Southerm Mississippi 15 years ago and never picked up the drawl but his daughter sounds like she has been there all her life. His son made sure to keep his northern nothing sound and couldn't wait to move back to Illinois when he was old enough. If you want to listen to an interesting conversation listen to a couple of cajons carry on. Different parts of the country can sure enough change the way words are pronounced.