Brass Frame 1892 with SS Octagon Barrel....(pictures)

[rbertalotto]

I picked this up a couple days ago...........What do you think?











Safety was removed along with the lettering and a SS plug was turned and installed.



More pictures here:
http://public.fotki.com/Rbertalotto/thi ... -brasssta/

[Warhawk]

Gorgeous! That one even has nice wood.

[Rube Burrows]

Good looking rifle.

[rbertalotto]

Thanks!

I wasn't sure I'd like the Brass and SS look. But it has grown on me and I think I'll keep her!

[AJMD429]

I wasn't sure I'd like the Brass and SS look. But it has grown on me and I think I'll keep her!

I think the Rossi stainless octagonals have a sort of 'pewter' look, and although it isn't 'authentic' for any time-era other than the present, it looks good. The brass accents it well, too.

[rbertalotto]

I think the Rossi stainless octagonals have a sort of 'pewter' look

Agreed!

[COSteve]

Beautiful!

[Rusty]

It looks great! I think time will impart a lovely patina to it that will make it look even better.

[Pete44ru]

Besides the brass receiver, I also like the brass BP & rifle forend cap - Niiiice !

Now, Roy - you GOTTA find another, then attach a blued carbon steel bbl & magazine - so you can be said to have a pair of Brass ..................er, rifles.

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[rbertalotto]

so you can be said to have a pair of Brass

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[O.S.O.K.]

Very nice. Is that a solid brass receiver or a steel receiver with a brass finish? I'd think that brass is too soft for a 92? Or do they recommend standard pressure loads only?

[rbertalotto]

Most (if not all) brass framed rifles did not use brass, but something called "Gunmetal". This rifle has a solid receiver. It is not a cover or an applied finish.

Gunmetal, also known as yellow brass in the United States,[1] is a type of bronze – an alloy of copper, tin, and zinc.[2] Originally used chiefly for making guns, gunmetal was eventually superseded by steel. Gunmetal casts and machines well and is resistant to corrosion from steam and salt water,[3] and is used to make steam and hydraulic castings, valves, and gears, and also statues and various small objects, e.g. buttons. It has a tensile strength of 221 to 310 MPa, a specific gravity of 8.7, a density 8,719 kg/m3, and a Brinell hardness of 65 to 74.

There is no prohibition on using full SAMMI loads mentioned in the owners manual.

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

Most (if not all) brass framed rifles did not use brass, but something called "Gunmetal". This rifle has a solid receiver. It is not a cover or an applied finish.

Gunmetal, also known as yellow brass in the United States,[1] is a type of bronze – an alloy of copper, tin, and zinc.[2] Originally used chiefly for making guns, gunmetal was eventually superseded by steel. Gunmetal casts and machines well and is resistant to corrosion from steam and salt water,[3] and is used to make steam and hydraulic castings, valves, and gears, and also statues and various small objects, e.g. buttons. It has a tensile strength of 221 to 310 MPa, a specific gravity of 8.7, a density 8,719 kg/m3, and a Brinell hardness of 65 to 74.

There is no prohibition on using full SAMMI loads mentioned in the owners manual.

These are solid gun metal or gun brass receivers. They will shoot loose if loaded up.

[Pisgah]

Rossi calls blue/brass and stainess/brass "finish options" for the 92. I believe the receiver is brass-plated steel. Try sticking a magnet to it.

[rbertalotto]

Magnet will not stick to it. It is clear to see it is a solid material when you start to stone the internals.

Nate, are these brass frame Rossi rifles rare? I'd never seen one or even heard of one before.

Were they made with a blued barrel and magazine with the brass receiver in 357? I'd like to add such to my little collection.

[Griff]

Not Nate, but no, they're not exceedingly rare. There've been several discussed on this forum in thepast... even as to whether the metal was plated or the "brass gunmetal".

[rjohns94]

Very nice very nice

[rodeo kid]

If Nate said they are solid gun metal, then that's what they are. He knows his 92's. I think they only come in .45Colt. I had one a year ago but it only lasted a month as someone offered me $300 more than I paid for it. It was blued instead of the stainless, but otherwise identical. Davidsons gets a few in from time to time watch their website. God Bless.

[earlmck]

Were they made with a blued barrel and magazine with the brass receiver in 357? I'd like to add such to my little collection.

I have no idea how numerous they are but my friend Butch was wanting a .357 levergun. Seemed like there were none to be had for a time there, but last spring we finally picked him up one off "gunbroker". Turned out to be the brass/blued/Octagon like I think you are talking about. I think he'd prefer a regular blue receiver -- shall we see if we can trade him out of it?

[olyinaz]

Really nice looking rifle. Personally I'd shoot nothing but light cowboy loads in a brasser, but that's just me.

Send it off to Steve and have him slick her up for you!

Cheers,
Oly

[rbertalotto]

think he'd prefer a regular blue receiver -- shall we see if we can trade him out of it?

If he wants to sell it, I'd be interested. He can contact me directly at rvb100@comcast.net

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

Magnet will not stick to it. It is clear to see it is a solid material when you start to stone the internals.

Nate, are these brass frame Rossi rifles rare? I'd never seen one or even heard of one before.

Were they made with a blued barrel and magazine with the brass receiver in 357? I'd like to add such to my little collection.

Rossi made these brass frame guns starting in the early 2000's. They were in 357m and 45lc.
They did them in blue carbine and oct and some stainless oct as well.

The only one they catalog now is the blue 24" oct in 45lc

Here's one of the 357m carbines.


This one was built on a stainless 45.



This blue was used to make this hollywood henry

[olyinaz]

Lovely!

Oly

[twobit]

It's a sorta, kinda, Model 92 but they got the receiver all wrong. It is a mix of a Model 1892 and 1894 receiver. Look at the left rear vertical of the receiver and compare with the 1894 on the middle photo and the 1892 in the bottom photo. In addition, the lower edge of the receiver is shaped like the 1894 and does not have the curved rise under the loading gate as does the 1892.






Michael

[rbertalotto]

Interesting! I love this stuff.......you have a very good eye for these details. Thanks!

[flashpan]

Roy, that's a gorgeous rifle!

A local shop here had two just like it, .45lc, stainless and all.......
I stopped in and drooled over them several times, but was really looking for a .357 lever at the time......

[Griff]

It's a sorta, kinda, Model 92 but they got the receiver all wrong. It is a mix of a Model 1892 and 1894 receiver. Look at the left rear vertical of the receiver and compare with the 1894 on the middle photo and the 1892 in the bottom photo. In addition, the lower edge of the receiver is shaped like the 1894 and does not have the curved rise under the loading gate as does the 1892.



Michael

Yep, I ain't sure when that change in the Rossis came about. Here's a pic of my wife's 1988 Rossi '92. It's a gold-washed receiver over steel.

As you can see it's more like the original 1892 with that rise under the "spring cover".
My later Rossi from about 2006 is like Roy's:

It's my understanding that the new Winchester (Miroku) and Armi-Sport (Chiappa) 1892 copies follow the originals lines.
Miroku:

Chiappa:

[Old Savage]

These are differences I had not noticed. Interesting. Where the curved lines come in can be very important.

[Sixgun]

OS, you dig this up? You bored or something? Whats the matter, not enough indentations? ---------6