My son flys the F-15Es and I always get a little scared when I see the F-15s in the news. Thank goodness they weren't his planes, and thank goodness these local flyers are alive.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/20/jetcrash/index.html
Whew!
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"I have reached up to the gun rack and taken down the .30/30 carbine by some process of natural selection, not condoned perhaps by many experts but easily explained by those who spend long periods in the wilderness areas."~Calvin Rutstrum~
"You come to the swamp, you better leave your skirt at the house"~Dave Canterbury~
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I was an engine & prop mechanic on C-130 Gunships for the 1st Special Operations Wing. These news cast really get my heart pumpin' sometimes. He's still my boy, and he's got 3 kids of his own.
"I have reached up to the gun rack and taken down the .30/30 carbine by some process of natural selection, not condoned perhaps by many experts but easily explained by those who spend long periods in the wilderness areas."~Calvin Rutstrum~
"You come to the swamp, you better leave your skirt at the house"~Dave Canterbury~
"You come to the swamp, you better leave your skirt at the house"~Dave Canterbury~
Always sad to hear.
My unit controls air for close air support missions. We are always hit hard when ever an aircraft goes down on our watch. Last time I was in the sand box we had several birds go down for different reasons really hits home especialy when you know who the pilot was.
My unit controls air for close air support missions. We are always hit hard when ever an aircraft goes down on our watch. Last time I was in the sand box we had several birds go down for different reasons really hits home especialy when you know who the pilot was.
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Glad it wasn't YOUR son
, but it was someones, still very sad. 
Usually from these incidents, comes a great deal of learning. in this one death there may be dozens of other lives saved. Maybe some sort of technique, or maneuver that has a small, but deadly flaw to it, or maybe a procedure not followed properly.
It could also be some sort of flaw in the A/C as well that will be exposed to hopefully prevent this from happening again.
I am an air traffic controller, and back in '95 I was working as a quality assurance specialist, in ATC. part of my duties included being part of S&R missions, accident and incident investigations, some fatal, some not.
On one such investigation (fatal) I got a call from a Naval Commander (can't say where, cause the whole thing was classified), about an F-14 that had crashed while doing ACM maneveuers with an Air Force F-16. The F-14 got into a flat spin (yes like the one in Top Gun, cause I asked) and this pilot did the same thing tommy frst did, punched out, but the REO was hit by the aircraft after he punched out and was killed.
end result, they told me about a year later, that there were pilot techniques that were flawed and supposedly resulted in a slight redesign of the ejection process as well. The REO should never have died on that one.
Hopefully something can be learned from this one as well.
Glad it wasn't YOUR son
, but it was someones, still very sad. Usually from these incidents, comes a great deal of learning. in this one death there may be dozens of other lives saved. Maybe some sort of technique, or maneuver that has a small, but deadly flaw to it, or maybe a procedure not followed properly.
It could also be some sort of flaw in the A/C as well that will be exposed to hopefully prevent this from happening again.
I am an air traffic controller, and back in '95 I was working as a quality assurance specialist, in ATC. part of my duties included being part of S&R missions, accident and incident investigations, some fatal, some not.
On one such investigation (fatal) I got a call from a Naval Commander (can't say where, cause the whole thing was classified), about an F-14 that had crashed while doing ACM maneveuers with an Air Force F-16. The F-14 got into a flat spin (yes like the one in Top Gun, cause I asked) and this pilot did the same thing tommy frst did, punched out, but the REO was hit by the aircraft after he punched out and was killed.
end result, they told me about a year later, that there were pilot techniques that were flawed and supposedly resulted in a slight redesign of the ejection process as well. The REO should never have died on that one.
Hopefully something can be learned from this one as well.
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Looks like one of them didn't make it.....God go with our men and women in uniform.
"I have reached up to the gun rack and taken down the .30/30 carbine by some process of natural selection, not condoned perhaps by many experts but easily explained by those who spend long periods in the wilderness areas."~Calvin Rutstrum~
"You come to the swamp, you better leave your skirt at the house"~Dave Canterbury~
"You come to the swamp, you better leave your skirt at the house"~Dave Canterbury~