POLITICS - Newt on Terrorism

Comal Forge · Post by **Comal Forge** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:05 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08 ... nnSTCVideo

Not sure when he made this speech but it's pretty riveting to listen to...

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:09 am

Thank you for the link! I'm at a hotel with a slow link, so I'll need to watch it later!

CowboyTutt · Post by **CowboyTutt** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:51 am

Comal, I saw the video, but I can't take the guy seriously. He's not running for president, and even if he was, I really can't look up to a guy who was trying to impeach Clinton for infidelity all the while he was having an extra-marital affair of his own. Just more of same.

-Tutt

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:37 am

I think Newt would make a good VP for John McCain.

Scott Young · Post by **Scott Young** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:16 am

CowboyTutt wrote:Comal, I saw the video, but I can't take the guy seriously. He's not running for president, and even if he was, I really can't look up to a guy who was trying to impeach Clinton for infidelity all the while he was having an extra-marital affair of his own. Just more of same.

-Tutt

it was lying under oath! yes, infidelity was there and despicable, but it was the lying.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:29 am

Gingrich is irrelevant. Anytime he starts talking about a social contract, the best thing to do is just turn and walk away.

Talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:33 am

CowboyTutt wrote:Comal, I saw the video, but I can't take the guy seriously. He's not running for president, and even if he was, I really can't look up to a guy who was trying to impeach Clinton for infidelity all the while he was having an extra-marital affair of his own. Just more of same.

-Tutt

Tutt, The impeachment process was over perjury, not adultery.

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:34 am

FWiedner wrote:Gingrich is irrelevant. Anytime he starts talking about a social contract, the best thing to do is just turn and walk away.

Talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

That is true enough. He seems to change to do what is most expedient rregardless of stated principle.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:43 am

Hobie wrote:
CowboyTutt wrote:Comal, I saw the video, but I can't take the guy seriously. He's not running for president, and even if he was, I really can't look up to a guy who was trying to impeach Clinton for infidelity all the while he was having an extra-marital affair of his own. Just more of same.

-Tutt
Tutt, The impeachment process was over perjury, not adultery.

+3 Clinton lied under oath to save his rear end pertaining to a matter he was being investigated for - a pattern of sexual harassment. What he did with Monica - and his lie under oath to cover it up - confirmed a pattern. He lied not do to embarassment over being an adulterous vermin - he knew his folks would forgive him for that (heck, married to Hillary, I think most of us would have gave him a pass on that one!

), but rather, to save his skin in the civil trial. In any case, perjury was what he was charged with, perjury falls under the "high crimes and misdemeanors" classification, and the House was 100% correct in impeaching him. The Senate should have done it's job and removed the scumbag from office - if for nothing else than to show every future President and most elected officials - as well as the country - that respect for the law is a requirement of holding office, not an afterthought...

CowboyTutt · Post by **CowboyTutt** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:03 am

Tutt, The impeachment process was over perjury, not adultery.

Hobie, what really makes my teeth grind is Newt's hypocrisy on this matter. I'm not defending Clinton by ANY means, but Newt isn't much better a man as far as I'm concerned.

-Tutt

bunklocoempire · Post by **bunklocoempire** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:56 pm

Gee, he never mentions the "why". http://www.history.navy.mil/library/onl ... .htm#intro More fear, smoke & mirrors. Talk all day about the symptoms but never the cure. The Constitutional/founding fathers advice cure.

Bunkloco

Leverdude · Post by **Leverdude** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:02 pm

More fear, smoke & mirrors. Talk all day about the symptoms but never the cure.

He's a politician aint he? If they actually fixed things they wouldn't be needed after awhile. I call it job security.

deerwhacker444 · Post by **deerwhacker444** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:43 pm

Here we go again.....Get out the Popcorn and pull up a chair,..this thread's going to get Ugly....!

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:50 pm

CowboyTutt wrote:Comal, I saw the video, but I can't take the guy seriously. He's not running for president, and even if he was, I really can't look up to a guy who was trying to impeach Clinton for infidelity all the while he was having an extra-marital affair of his own. Just more of same.

-Tutt

Wrong
President Clinton was being impeached for lying to
a grand jury.....not for cheating on the bi@#h

JoeArizona · Post by **JoeArizona** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:29 pm

Hobie wrote:
CowboyTutt wrote:Comal, I saw the video, but I can't take the guy seriously. He's not running for president, and even if he was, I really can't look up to a guy who was trying to impeach Clinton for infidelity all the while he was having an extra-marital affair of his own. Just more of same.

-Tutt
Tutt, The impeachment process was over perjury, not adultery.

A legal issue vs. a moral issue. Which one is worse? All a matter of opinion. Judged now or judged later...

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:34 pm

For a Christian, judged now is worse. We won't be judged later, for we are already judged and found innocent.