Registerd CCW guns, or not?

[dennie]

Just curious as to how other folks feel concerning the guns they use for CCW. Having my Ohio and Pennsylvania CC permits I usually carry when out. Recently I have been wondering if it is a good idea to carry a gun that I purchased second hand and not registered to me, or one that has been registered to me when it was bought. I have no second hand guns that I think would be the least bit suspicious, but sure don't need any surprises.
All opinions welcome. Thanx.
dennie

[O.S.O.K.]

Why would that make any difference? Do you have a requirement to get a foid or something in your area?

I would say there is no concern whatsoever if you don't.

I carry a pistol not registered to me from time to time and don't think a thing about it. There's no law here in Texas that is being broken so....

[Cast Bullet Hunter]

Just curious as to how other folks feel concerning the guns they use for CCW. Having my Ohio and Pennsylvania CC permits I usually carry when out. Recently I have been wondering if it is a good idea to carry a gun that I purchased second hand and not registered to me, or one that has been registered to me when it was bought. I have no second hand guns that I think would be the least bit suspicious, but sure don't need any surprises.
All opinions welcome. Thanx.
dennie

Just because a Form 4473 was completed does not constitute "Registration". It is a declaration of eligibility and confirmation by documenting the instant check was completed. Nothing more. The federal government does not register firearms except for those designated as Class-III.

Does the State of Ohio have a handgun/firearm registration requirement? Does either the county or city you live in have a registration requirement? If the answer to either is yes, then you should not carry an un-registered firearm since mere possession is a criminal act. If the answer is no, then there is no question to begin with.

[adirondakjack]

If the gun is legal, alrightee then. Now, if, in your jurisdiction, there is no requirement on casual sale to do anything other than pay the money and take the gun, I WOULD still want some sort of receipt showing when and from whom I bought it. That way, in the unfortunate instance the gun (and you) come to the attention of authorities, they don't try and link YOU to something that happened involving the gun before you owned it. My nightmare would be they say the gun is a match to some slug pulled out of a murder victim....


Where I live, we can't even OWN a handgun without a CCW, ane EVERY handgun we do own has to be listed, by serial number, on the CCW. So no, I wouldn't be legal to carry your gun, even if you said it was OK, unless I went and got it listed on my permit (some folks do that, spouses, siblings, etc share guns legally).

[dennie]

I am doing everything by Ohio law. Over many years I have done as others have as well, bought ,traded and sold many guns before the laws in recent years were changed. I have no reason to believe that any guns I own were used in a crime. I do not know either if a LEO would run the weapon you carry without suspicion.
Just wondering here.

[O.S.O.K.]

Oh, they will run the gun. If you know who you bought it from (and can prove it), then I wouldn't worry. Otherwise, maybe it is better to only carry one that you yourself bought new or through a dealer...

[jeepnik]

Sir, consider yourself lucky. In my state, you are only allowed to carry what is listed on your card. You can add as many as you want, but you have to pay for it. Still, I consider myself very fortunate to have a permit in my state.

Oh, and to your question, if it's legally possesed, it shouldn't matter.

[AJMD429]

Just because a Form 4473 was completed does not constitute "Registration". It is a declaration of eligibility and confirmation by documenting the instant check was completed. Nothing more. The federal government does not register firearms except for those designated as Class-III.

Although what you say is the way it is supposed to be, the government did admit a decade ago that they were retaining a permanent record of the 'background check' done during 4473 purchases, despite the fact that it is explicitly against the law for them to do so. So, a person could be charged with having an 'unregistered' gun, even though most likely it is, in fact, registered...

[adirondakjack]

One more note. Many years ago I was living in FL and found myself looking for work. I found a temporary construction job. Like many folks, I was staying in a "by the week" motel and had a bunch of "stuff" in my car. I guess another resident of the place saw me take my revolver out of the car, and in due course the next morning, a couple of deputies happened by an "just happened to" check my CAR, which had a temporary tag on it as I'd just bought it. They ran ME, they ran the CAR, and when both came back fine, the one deputy says to the other "ask him about THE gun." So I produced the .357 mag revolver from the LOCKED glove box, unloaded it and handed it over. They ran the GUN, tthen asked me if I had a bill of sale for it. I did, as I had bought it a couple of weeks before, quite legally at a gun shop, and only after they looked it over, compared the serial number, etc did they finally decide I wasn't gonna yield em an arrest, nd went on their way.....

Even where registration is not required, some kinda paperwork might prove usedful.

[Hobie]

We no longer have to list the particular firearm on our CHP in VA.

[kimwcook]

A CLP in Washington State doesn't require any firearm be revealed.

[2X22]

A CLP in Washington State doesn't require any firearm be revealed.

Exactly.

I always consider WA such a Lib state until it comes to many of our gun laws. I wouldn't live in a state where a CCW had to be registered.

2x22

[Rube Burrows]

Here in Louisiana.....we DONT register guns. I have carried both. As long as the gun does not come back stolen or something I dont see it being any more of a problem than it usually would if the gun was needed in some type of defensive manner.

[jnyork]

No registration of any kind here in Wyoming.

I would have one heck of a time proving I am the legal owner of any of my guns. But then, the law will have a harder time proving otherwise.

[dennie]

Thanx for all the replies. I am getting to know my SP101 better and better, and liking it more and more. Not quite as small and light as my J-frame, but it is not bad. I have been wearing it a lot lately around the house/farm getting used to it. And yep, I bought it new about a year ago.
dennie

[jlchucker]

Where I live we don't register guns and we don't have permits required for carrying them. Don't be stirring the pot and giving our newbee liberal socialists any ideas. They've taken over too much already!

[rimrock]

In Texas, you'd be wise to hold a ccl if you're packing a handgun in your car. While inside your car, the castle doctrine applies only as long as you're traveling. It's at the discretion of local law enforcement at the scene to arrest you for illegal possession of a handgun. Traveling has had many meanings with cases dating back to the early 1900's. If you hold a ccl and are not carrying in a prohibited zone, the issue of traveling will not cost you the bucks for an attorney for that alleged illegal handgun. Just my 2 cents as a layman--YMMV.

As the texas Constitution only allows regulation for the wearing of arms, none of this applies to long guns. Theoretically. You could still walk down main street with your rifle and comply with the law as long as you weren't discharging the rifle or threatening anyone.

rimrock

[dennie]

Perhaps "registered" is not the proper term I was looking for. I meant whatever it is called when you fill out the 4473 when you purchase a gun and they call the Feds to check you out. And I check out just fine, thank you.
Not my intention to "stir the pot", just asking a simple question.
dennie