1892 Winchester question

[Spiritmaker]

I picked up an old 92 Winchester at an auction that has a 20"bbl and not a button mag but a mag that extends about 3 1/2" past the forearm cap. The barrel is 20" octagon. It was made in 1906. Has anyone heard of a 1892 Winchester short rifle like the 1894 and Marlin 1893?

Tim

[Pete44ru]

I wouldn't think it a "Short Rifle", rather a 20" Carbine with optional 3/4 magazine - especially if it has the typical carbine butt/sights ILO rifle buttstock/sights.

The "button" mag was the 1/2 mag, IIRC - I had one such, in .32-20, made in 1907.

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[Hobie]

We just had a SRC button mag .25-20 in the shop for repair. <sigh> He was not interested in selling.

[Pete44ru]

I was interested in moving my .32-20, Hobie (mostly 'cause I didn't wanna alter it) - from a funshow dealer I got $1500 (cash) plus a 99% .44 mag B-92 & a NIB Marlin 1895 Sporter - about $2500 value in toto. . .

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[Spiritmaker]

The reason I thought of it as a short rifle is that it does not have a carbine butt or sights. Kinda rough with a so so bore but it shoots better than me. It could be that someone cut it down years ago. Not that experienced with collecting just shooting them.

[Pete44ru]

If it has rifle-type sights ILO carbine-type, and a rifle-type crescent butt ILO the squared-top carbine-type, it is by definition a Short Rifle.

One in .25-20 with a special order magazine should easily bring North of $2K on today's market.

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[Spiritmaker]

Definitely not worth 2K. It has seen its better days. But it is 32WCF and one of my favorite calibers if not my favorite. Not really nice enough to get lettered. It will make a fine knockabout rifle.

[Sixgun]

No carbines were produced with octagon barrels. Its either a short rifle or a cut down rifle. Only a "hands on" by someone who is educated in this can tell the difference unless there's obvious telltale signs such as cutting marks on the muzzle, recut dovetails, or a barrel address thats too far forward.---------Sixgun

[Griff]

No carbines were produced with octagon barrels. Its either a short rifle or a cut down rifle. Only a "hands on" by someone who is educated in this can tell the difference unless there's obvious telltale signs such as cutting marks on the muzzle, recut dovetails, or a barrel address thats too far forward.---------Sixgun

Or pictures posted in great detail showing the areas mentioned.

[twobit]

Tim,

If you will post, or send me some photos of the rifle I should be able to tell you if it is in its factory original
configuration. There were lots of 20 inch octagon barrel rifles made. The unique point of your gun is its
short magazine. My guess is it is a cut down gun. The barre laddress will be in the proper llocation as the
cut off portion is the muzzle end of the barrel.
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Michael