any pet loads for a B92 357 mag? (158gr SJ HP or SP)
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any pet loads for a B92 357 mag? (158gr SJ HP or SP)
Any good loads ? Please give results if you have them.
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Four questions:Hobie wrote:Using the 158 gr. Hornady XTP-FP I would load it over 18 gr. L'ilGun. The load is a dandy in my 1894C.
Why FP and not HP?
What kind of velocity do you get w/18grains of L'il Gun?
What is the max for this bullet and L'il Gun?
How would this work pressure-wise in a Rossi?
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16.8 ww 296 -ww mag primer-158 gr hdy HP
Actually developed and tested this load with the old hdy jhp with exposed lead nose and dan wesson 6 in revolver-very accurate. Did chrono in both 24 in and 18 1/2 in marlins and if memory serves correct they were both in the 1800's and can't be shure, but think they were within 50 fps of another. Loaded some with the newer xtp, and shot well, but never gave a serious test.
Bottom line in my experience with jacketed bullets ussing ww296 and data from speer #10 manual (older higher pressure 357 data) The higher end loads gave good performance. These loads didn't pose any problems in my Dan Wesson, Ruger Blackhawk, my marlins, winchesters or Rossies.
They do make my charter bulldog rock
and don't shoot many full tilt old spec loads in it.
Paco had an article in the articles section of leverguns.com and had a lot of load info for rifles if I remember correctly. Remember he had some hot loads with 2400 and cast bullets. 2400 is a good 357 powder, but is not as FOOL proof as 296
Check the articals section. Good luck
Dave
Actually developed and tested this load with the old hdy jhp with exposed lead nose and dan wesson 6 in revolver-very accurate. Did chrono in both 24 in and 18 1/2 in marlins and if memory serves correct they were both in the 1800's and can't be shure, but think they were within 50 fps of another. Loaded some with the newer xtp, and shot well, but never gave a serious test.
Bottom line in my experience with jacketed bullets ussing ww296 and data from speer #10 manual (older higher pressure 357 data) The higher end loads gave good performance. These loads didn't pose any problems in my Dan Wesson, Ruger Blackhawk, my marlins, winchesters or Rossies.
They do make my charter bulldog rock
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Paco had an article in the articles section of leverguns.com and had a lot of load info for rifles if I remember correctly. Remember he had some hot loads with 2400 and cast bullets. 2400 is a good 357 powder, but is not as FOOL proof as 296
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FP is designed for the velocities you'll get the HP is not. 2000 fps is what I got from my carbine. 18 gr. is the book max. The pressure would work the same in any gun but every gun is different and so one should work up. That said, that is a 100% density load and it should not be exceeded unless you can trim your cases a bit long and your gun will take the longer case. Some guns, like Tycer's Win M94, are really a .360 DW.pharmseller wrote:Four questions:Hobie wrote:Using the 158 gr. Hornady XTP-FP I would load it over 18 gr. L'ilGun. The load is a dandy in my 1894C.
Why FP and not HP?
What kind of velocity do you get w/18grains of L'il Gun?
What is the max for this bullet and L'il Gun?
How would this work pressure-wise in a Rossi?
Quinn
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Not to hi-jack the thread, but what will the 158 gr. FP XTP do in a pistol? I've got some loaded with 16gr. LilGun and 10gr of Bluedot that I've been plinking with. When shooting these out of my 6.5" Taurus, will they have enough velocity to make the FP perform correctly or should I switch to HP for deer sized game? I thought the FP was mainly for shooting out of a Carbine.
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My pet load is 16.0gr of Lilgun behind a 158JHP.
I have tried 17 and even 18 but why lose accuracy to gain a little velocity?
18 was "stout". 17gr was still a little hot, but my gun liked 16.0 the best.
I even tried 16.5 and somehow 16 did it.
It's all about your gun.
There's going to be a velocity just sort of "vibes" with your particular gun.
Work up in increments, and when the group starts opening up again, go back to where it was most accurate.
Different powders, different weight of bullets, and different twist rates, barrel lentghs, and general construction of the weapon all combine to give you "what shoots best".
You'll know it when you get it right, and then go from there.
That's what I do, anyhoo.
I have tried 17 and even 18 but why lose accuracy to gain a little velocity?
18 was "stout". 17gr was still a little hot, but my gun liked 16.0 the best.
I even tried 16.5 and somehow 16 did it.
It's all about your gun.
There's going to be a velocity just sort of "vibes" with your particular gun.
Work up in increments, and when the group starts opening up again, go back to where it was most accurate.
Different powders, different weight of bullets, and different twist rates, barrel lentghs, and general construction of the weapon all combine to give you "what shoots best".
You'll know it when you get it right, and then go from there.
That's what I do, anyhoo.