New From Ruger

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:19 pm

Announced today

LCP - Lightweight Compact Pistol

NRA Mini-14 with 20 round magazines

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/ ... tInfo.html

ScottT · Post by **ScottT** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:40 pm

Thanks Jim, I guess the Ruger haters are going to have to find another reason.

Bitmap · Post by **Bitmap** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:55 pm

They're only planning on selling the Mini in 2008. I'll bet that changes.

mklwhite · Post by **mklwhite** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:04 pm

LCP looks like a KelTec knockoff. Nearly same specs and everything.

Marlin .35 · Post by **Marlin .35** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:14 pm

+1 on that!!!!! I have owned KekTeks and that has the exact specifications.!! Art

PPpastordon · Post by **PPpastordon** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:51 pm

mklwhite
"LCP looks like a KelTec knockoff. Nearly same specs and everything. "

A "knockoff?" Sounds a little strong to me. It does look similar - but it sure ain't the same.
How 'bout this; Kel-Tec made a sweet little gun and Ruger (wisely, I hope) made some competition for it. SRP seems about the same. Hope the Ruger will match it for across the counter price. I would like one.
Grace and Peace,

jbm1968 · Post by **jbm1968** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:56 pm

Sign me up for one of those NRA Models! Sorry, its not a levergun

I used to have a Mini 14 and regret selling it, I had none of the accuracy problems many claim. It shot a minute of "pie plate" at 100 yards offhand. I cant wait!!!

Edited note: Actually I may rethink that purchase. I cant see over 1K for a Mini 14

jbm1968 · Post by **jbm1968** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:33 pm

Add a 50th Anniversary Bearcat to that order!

Scott64A · Post by **Scott64A** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:40 pm

Yeah, a KelTec knocoff, except it most likely functions smoother and will last twice as long.

KelTecs are nice guns for the small amount of money, but 'm glad to see Ruger throw a hat in the ring!

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:13 pm

I'd wager the Ruger will be more reliable than the KelTec without all the tinkering too. Hope they are priced competitively.

mklwhite · Post by **mklwhite** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:59 am

Of course by knockoff I mean: "An unauthorized copy or imitation..." (American Heritage Dictionary)
I'm not saying that Ruger might out do KelTec. They have got at least 2 advantages. 1) Ruger has deeper pockets. They can spend more time and money on materials, equipment & testing. 2) Keltec did Ruger's homework for them.
Am I knocking it? No. I look forward to seeing the reviews and hopefully comparisons on it. It is sort of like the Russian space shuttle (Buran Orbiter) and ours. Did they take our idea, plans and research. Heck yes. Anyone with eyes can see that. But did they make it better? Well, yes they did. They didn't spend the time and research to come up with the idea so they could spend it instead on trying to perfect it.
I wonder what the real world price will be with them when you can get a KelTec for about $200 in spite of a MSRP of $324 (blued).

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:17 am

I may get one of those. I know the Kel Tecs run hot and cold but I bet the Rugers will be of higher quality. I hope..........

nemhed · Post by **nemhed** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:29 am

The LCP looks like a much more refined Keltec. My buddy has a P380, that I've shot. I just couldn't get myself to spend $220 on one even though they do exactly what they are designed to do. I bought a used Detective Special for the same price and purpose although it weighs 3x as much. The SR9 I could actually get excited about. I always thought the P series pistols were ugly and clunky, but some say the same about my Glock 22. I've always been a Ruger fan and I'm glad to see them with so many new offerings.

oregon73 · Post by **oregon73** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:54 pm

I'm definitely going to have to get one of those short barreled NRA Mini-14's. Imagine Ruger sending that thing out to civilians with two 20-round mags. And a factory 16.25'' barrel. Sweet!

Rob

El Mac · Post by **El Mac** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:02 pm

I can do without the ugly Keltec thingy. The others are interesting...

dsmith512 · Post by **dsmith512** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:12 pm

I would rather have the slick PPK.

Bond. James Bond.

Now if it was only as cheap as the Keltec.

mklwhite · Post by **mklwhite** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:48 am

...or you could always go for the Bersa.

Thinking about one of those for the wife.

dsmith512 · Post by **dsmith512** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:32 am

mklwhite wrote:...or you could always go for the Bersa.

Thinking about one of those for the wife.

Hey, very nice replica. I just wished it was stainless instead of nickel plated. But the prices look good and Gunblast.com gave it a favorable review.

ohwin94_61 · Post by **ohwin94_61** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:48 pm

I saw a Kahr I'm not sure of the name Pm40

but its in the $600 range thanks for the tip

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:29 pm

I've owned 2 Mini-14s and both were so inaccurate I'd never own another.

gunstockmaker · Post by **gunstockmaker** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:23 pm

I've tried 5 mini's over the years beginning with the one with a wooden cover over the barrel back around 1978? It didn't shoot well either. Then the last one couldn't keep up with my trigger finger and I has to do the plastic black rifle.

I'd rather have my trusty 94 trapper with them new fangled pointy bullets from Hornady. OH - and the rear sight from "One Ragged Hole" - that's all a guy ever needed!

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:39 pm

Swampman wrote:I've owned 2 Mini-14s and both were so inaccurate I'd never own another.

I'd like to know if the stiffer, shorter barrel makes a difference. I owned a Mini when I was a teen ager but never put it to paper...just blasted away with it and had fun. Seemed to do OK, but would love to see some reports on the new ones. Also hear more about the 6.8 round and it's future. I thought there were some pressure issues with that round and again, would like to know more as it seems more ideal to all around hunting/protection usage than the 223.

CowboyTutt · Post by **CowboyTutt** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:21 pm

I'm sorry, I thought this thread was about a new Ruger "pocket pistol", now its become a "lets bash Ruger" thread because of one guys experiences with a Ruger rifle????

-Tutt

meanc · Post by **meanc** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:40 pm

Actually the original post was about both the LCP and the NRA Mini 14.

And you can't really fault anyone for mentioning the inaccuracy of both the Mini 14 / Mini 30.

For less than the price Ruger sells these for, you could put together an AR-15 that would shoot MOA and less and be able to buy a case of ammo and several quality 30rd Mags.

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:28 am

The little Ruger has a feel and balance to it that put it in the class of a truly fine rifle. I toted the M16 for a number of years and much prefer the feel of the Mini-14 and the Garand action. I have heard informal reports of improved accuracy with the newer mini -14's and Ranch Rifles and am anxious to learn how this new crop does. That's the reason for my comments and questions on my last post. I am a Ruger fan of the first order!

If you don't believe me, just come on over.........

Jeff Quinn · Post by **Jeff Quinn** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:46 pm

The Mini can be a bit finicky about the ammo that it prefers in regards to accuracy. It will only shoot as well as the ammo that it is fed, and can be inaccurate with some ammunition. However, I have never fired a Mini-14 that could not be made to shoot well with a little effort experimenting with ammo.

It is a light, handy, highly useful little carbine. You will never see it on the line at Camp Perry, and benchrest shooters prefer other designs, but as a useful tool, the Mini-14 is hard to beat.

Regarding the LCP, Ruger already has orders for several thousand of the little guns. If it works well, it will be a real hit.

ohwin94_61 · Post by **ohwin94_61** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:50 pm

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:04 pm

Look again gents! The mini-14 Is apart of the original post.

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