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Well it's that old idle hands thing, ya know. Gets me every time. So I've had a couple young lads that are interested in blacksmithing that have been taking classes with me this year. They are brothers ages 9 and 11 and both way too smart for their age. Through their fathers connections they managed to come up with an anvil, and with a little cleaning and fixing, turned out pretty good. It's not a Hay Budden but it will do great for a start. So now they are gonna need a forge. Well while trying to work on the cheap and having a few things lying around I decided to put together a workable forge for them. We were able to buy a blower from one gentleman and a post vice from another and their Dad was able to acquire a 55 gallon drum. Shoot, with a few pieces of whatever here and there, a little cuttin, a little weldin, I'm thinking the makins of a working forge set up that can be moved for storage. I remember some discussion about how to build a forge here before so I thought you all might enjoy tagging allong and perhaps learn a little on how they work too. Here's what I started with.
I started by making a way to use a brake rotor for the fire pot. Cast works great for this because it can take the heat. By cutting the web and removing the outer brake surface the rotor can now hold the fire. A simple flange cut from some plate connects the ash drop, made from the cut off leg of a cherry picker, to the rotor. There is a slideing gate at the bottom to hold the ash thats falls through the Tyre pipe grate and can be emptied later. The design allows ash to fall past the air inlet, made from some old lally column, and air to travel up through the bottom of the fire. The air is supplied by the blower that got mounted to the side of the drum.
Then adding some steel to the opposite side of the drum from the blower, for weight balance, I mounted the post vice. A small piece of stainless for a heat shield for the vice was welded on the top and another piece of flat stock for a 2" deep wall to retain fire and coals.
Wallah! Franken forge.
I still plan on mounting some lawn mower wheels on the side under the blower. Then with a handle that can be held in the vice the whole thing can be moved around wheelbarrel style. I also still have to weld up the grate to keep the coals from falling out of the fire. All totaled there was $60 spent. The rest was scrounged material. After all, that's what blacksmiths do. Build things from other things.
I think the boys will like it.
Gobbler
I started by making a way to use a brake rotor for the fire pot. Cast works great for this because it can take the heat. By cutting the web and removing the outer brake surface the rotor can now hold the fire. A simple flange cut from some plate connects the ash drop, made from the cut off leg of a cherry picker, to the rotor. There is a slideing gate at the bottom to hold the ash thats falls through the Tyre pipe grate and can be emptied later. The design allows ash to fall past the air inlet, made from some old lally column, and air to travel up through the bottom of the fire. The air is supplied by the blower that got mounted to the side of the drum.
Then adding some steel to the opposite side of the drum from the blower, for weight balance, I mounted the post vice. A small piece of stainless for a heat shield for the vice was welded on the top and another piece of flat stock for a 2" deep wall to retain fire and coals.
Wallah! Franken forge.
I still plan on mounting some lawn mower wheels on the side under the blower. Then with a handle that can be held in the vice the whole thing can be moved around wheelbarrel style. I also still have to weld up the grate to keep the coals from falling out of the fire. All totaled there was $60 spent. The rest was scrounged material. After all, that's what blacksmiths do. Build things from other things.
I think the boys will like it.
Gobbler
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Very clever.. Well Done
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Keep us updated on the project. Looks cool. Useful, too...!
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On the road again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Neat stuff!
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Re: OT FrankenForge
That looks like a great little forge. Good job on teaching some kids what you know.
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Nice work Gobbler!
I like the "counterweight" system you devised to offset that Champion.
I hope you really get it through to those kids to treasure and respect than hundred year old blower. They're getting fewer and further between.
Here's pics of my "junkyard" build. Everything but the tuyere and clinker breaker was scrounged from scrapyards. The Champion 400 was sold to me by a 'smithing friend.
http://tinyurl.com/2vf8nvn
We have several young men around those ages that come to our Guild meetings. One in particular is going to be a "serious" 'smith if he stays with it.
Thanks for sharing your project.
I like the "counterweight" system you devised to offset that Champion.
I hope you really get it through to those kids to treasure and respect than hundred year old blower. They're getting fewer and further between.
Here's pics of my "junkyard" build. Everything but the tuyere and clinker breaker was scrounged from scrapyards. The Champion 400 was sold to me by a 'smithing friend.
http://tinyurl.com/2vf8nvn
We have several young men around those ages that come to our Guild meetings. One in particular is going to be a "serious" 'smith if he stays with it.
Thanks for sharing your project.
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Re: OT FrankenForge
That looks to be a good design forge for a junkyard build.
The boys haven't seen the drum forge yet. The next lesson is, I think, the first Saturday in November. My plan is for them to do the first fire of the forge. Then I plan to have them help me make a hardie or two for their anvil. After that I will deliver the portable setup to their home. Mom's mini-van ain't gonna get it. It's interesting how intelligent these kids are. The younger one is in to Medieval stuff. He showed up with chain mail on for one lesson to show me. I was amazed.
Gobbler
The boys haven't seen the drum forge yet. The next lesson is, I think, the first Saturday in November. My plan is for them to do the first fire of the forge. Then I plan to have them help me make a hardie or two for their anvil. After that I will deliver the portable setup to their home. Mom's mini-van ain't gonna get it. It's interesting how intelligent these kids are. The younger one is in to Medieval stuff. He showed up with chain mail on for one lesson to show me. I was amazed.
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It looks like a great way to keep a young mind focused on something worthwhile.
Way to go Gobbler!
Way to go Gobbler!
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Re: OT FrankenForge
I like them both much fancier then my set up. I really need to get a welder and learn how to use it.
One of these days I will get my gas Forge put together but for now coal is to much fun.
Here is the anvil set up I have for my boys.
One of these days I will get my gas Forge put together but for now coal is to much fun.
Here is the anvil set up I have for my boys.
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Re: OT FrankenForge
Well the boys came for their lesson and they got to light their forge for the first time and I thought you would like to be kept up to date. It worked great, too. They worked on making a dipper for the slack tub and a fire rake to work the fire. Then I made them a hot hardie for their anvil and we hardened and tempered it.
Everything will get delivered to their house Monday morning.
Gobbler
Everything will get delivered to their house Monday morning.
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Outstanding work boys!
Kind regards,
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Re: OT FrankenForge
Looks like it went great. My boys and I like to spend time together banging on hot steel.
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