A "suspicious" box arrived this afternoon.
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A "suspicious" box arrived this afternoon.
When I arrived from from our snowy sojourn into the High Sierra today this package was leaning against the wall. I know what it contains, but I haven't gotten around to opening it. I will do so quite carefully in a short while.
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That's just not nice!!
I'd love a long brown box!!
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I'd love a long brown box!!
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Could it possibly be a raggedy old '86 ??
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Somebody sent you a Swiffer© ?
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So, okay... how long does it take to open a box???
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Maybe until Sunday?
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Thats just mean.
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Sorry, it's just a beat up old 1886 Extra Lightweight Take Down .45-90 WCF rifle.
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Joel wrote:Somebody sent you a Swiffer© ?
careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
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Mike, "beat up 86 lgtwt. td in 45-90"??? I bet there's no more than 100 of them ever made! Yours make number 4 that I have ever seen. I bought # 1 and #2 but the guy who had #3 knew what it was and it was priced accordingly
In addition to the "special caliber" in a lightweight, you also have the special full length mag.-------Good snag! ----------Sixgun
In addition to the "special caliber" in a lightweight, you also have the special full length mag.-------Good snag! ----------Sixgun
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Jack, it letters exactly as you see it. .45-90, Extra Lightweight, Full Magazine, Takedown, High Velocity front sight, Lyman rear. It has a steel buttplate with lip, not hard rubber like my other one has. I mostly picked it up because of the mag length. I am still in NEED of same in .40-82 and .50-110.
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Oh, is that all....Mike D. wrote:Sorry, it's just a beat up old 1886 Extra Lightweight Take Down .45-90 WCF rifle.
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That's too cool........... I like it.
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that's a beauty for sure. I'd be happy to exercise it for ya if it's too much trouble to walk it every day. .....
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Not to worry, Grizz, that Winchester will get plenty exercise.
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Love it! What a Beauty!
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Nice catch.
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Nice looking rifle, sounds like a special one too.
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That is nice
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Thanks for sharing that Mike. I think that is about the ideal 1886 configuration, I wonder why it didn't appeal to many others (other than, perhaps, the chambering).
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Darn near perfect from where I sit!! Congrats and thanks for sharing.
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The gun is not in top condition, but has plenty of bluing, a VERY clean bore, and representative dings and scratches from well cared for use in the years since it was new in 1906. That is exactly the kind of rifle I like. I can add my own "character" without fear of marking up a "new" Winchester. This one will be hunted, there are no useless "safe queens" in my little collection.
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Tell me the driver did not just leave that box sitting on your porch while you were gone?
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No, Joel, it was delivered by Fed Ex and signed for by my wife. I told her not to worry, we can put her granite counter tops in later.Joel wrote:Tell me the driver did not just leave that box sitting on your porch while you were gone?
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I love suspicious boxes.
That is really cool Mike. Congrats!
Looking forward to hearing the range report - what are you going to shoot? I mean, what load?
That is really cool Mike. Congrats!
Looking forward to hearing the range report - what are you going to shoot? I mean, what load?
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That's a great looking rifle! I love 86s.
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Fantastic. I love that it's factory with the Lyman too. Somebody ordered up a pretty cool gun 100 years ago.
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THATS my way of thinking---the important things first. ---------SixgunMike D. wrote: I told her not to worry, we can put her granite counter tops in later.
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The gun letters as follows concerning the sights:
Sights: High Velocity, Lyman rear.
The rear sight is the correct Lyman 21 with NI code, but the front is marked W.F. Sheard, Tacoma, Wash. What constitutes a "High Velocity" front sight? I do know that "Sheard" sights were special order items for Winchesters, but the sight is not mentioned by number or name. In 1905 Marble Outing Equipment bought several of Sheard's patents and began to produce "Sheard" type sights. The sight on this rifle is not a Marble's, but a "real" Sheard.
In later Winchester catalogues they list the Marble's "Sheard" Gold Hunting sight No. 15 for "Winchester Rifles, Model 1886, calibers .33, .45-70 and .45-90 High Power Smokeless. The very same sight that is on my '86 is pictured. I suppose a sensible conclusion could be drawn that this is the "High Velocity" sight mentioned in the letter, but made by Sheard prior to them selling the patents to Marble's.
Sights: High Velocity, Lyman rear.
The rear sight is the correct Lyman 21 with NI code, but the front is marked W.F. Sheard, Tacoma, Wash. What constitutes a "High Velocity" front sight? I do know that "Sheard" sights were special order items for Winchesters, but the sight is not mentioned by number or name. In 1905 Marble Outing Equipment bought several of Sheard's patents and began to produce "Sheard" type sights. The sight on this rifle is not a Marble's, but a "real" Sheard.
In later Winchester catalogues they list the Marble's "Sheard" Gold Hunting sight No. 15 for "Winchester Rifles, Model 1886, calibers .33, .45-70 and .45-90 High Power Smokeless. The very same sight that is on my '86 is pictured. I suppose a sensible conclusion could be drawn that this is the "High Velocity" sight mentioned in the letter, but made by Sheard prior to them selling the patents to Marble's.
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The seller told me that the bore was "bright with worn rifling". When I first took the gun down I expected to see what he described, but no way, the bore is super sharp with no wear and zero leading. The rifling does appear to be faster than the old BP 1 in 32" twist, though. The later EL rifles intended for high velocity loadings and jacketed bullets must have a 1 in 22 or 24" rate of twist. I am well pleased with this Winchester.
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Better condition than the seller decribed it as being in. Sweet indeed!
Congratulations!
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Very nice acquisition, Mike. Something a lot of guys just dream of putting their hands on.
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And before I got on this Forum I thought I was hot stuff with my 1969 Ruger#1 45-70
Yours is yet another one friend that is in a league of its own.
That is somthing special and somthing that is hard to really even put a value on !
Congrats!
Yours is yet another one friend that is in a league of its own.
That is somthing special and somthing that is hard to really even put a value on !
Congrats!
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You call that 'beat up'? You should see my old Winchesters! By the way, a box like that would not sit around unopened for very long at my house. Maybe a half minute or a minute, but that's about it.
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You don't want that old thing. Tell you what, I'll give you one of those newer 94s with the push button safety and that special AE feature for it and then you can show your face at the range again. Don't worry I won't tell anyone about your misfortune.
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How do you find so many 86 Win's?
I Like reading your posts but D** how do you do it?
I hope to use my 86 on Moose this fall if I get my draw.
I Like reading your posts but D** how do you do it?
I hope to use my 86 on Moose this fall if I get my draw.
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[quote="KirkD"]You call that 'beat up'? You should see my old Winchesters! By the way, a box like that would not sit around unopened for very long at my house. Maybe a half minute or a minute, but that's about it. [/quote
Kirk, I have been after this gun for 2 yrs. I got it for less than half of the original asking, exactly what I offered back then. I told the seller, Cabela's, what I thought the gun should really bring in a fair market and they finally responded. I am a very happy camper. I don't think that they thought the gun was "original". In fact, they told me that the sights were replaced. Not so, here is the sheet from Cody.
Winchester 1886, SN 137440
Date into warehouse: 8-22-1906
Caliber: .45-90
Barrel: 22 inch, Round
Extra light
Plain trigger
Sights: Lyman rear, Winchester High Velocity
Full Magazine
Shotgun butt
Takedown
Date shipped: 8-25-1906
Order: 65760
The gun sat around in the warehouse for all of three days. Guns like this were not made up on speculation, but were requested by a particular customer. .45-90 was not a caliber that was routinely offered in the Lightweight configuration. These were usually .33 or .45-70, with other calibers not encouraged at the time. Some rifles were also built in .38-56, .40-82, and .50-110. The latter two calibers are ones that I do not as yet own. The search continues.
Kirk, I have been after this gun for 2 yrs. I got it for less than half of the original asking, exactly what I offered back then. I told the seller, Cabela's, what I thought the gun should really bring in a fair market and they finally responded. I am a very happy camper. I don't think that they thought the gun was "original". In fact, they told me that the sights were replaced. Not so, here is the sheet from Cody.
Winchester 1886, SN 137440
Date into warehouse: 8-22-1906
Caliber: .45-90
Barrel: 22 inch, Round
Extra light
Plain trigger
Sights: Lyman rear, Winchester High Velocity
Full Magazine
Shotgun butt
Takedown
Date shipped: 8-25-1906
Order: 65760
The gun sat around in the warehouse for all of three days. Guns like this were not made up on speculation, but were requested by a particular customer. .45-90 was not a caliber that was routinely offered in the Lightweight configuration. These were usually .33 or .45-70, with other calibers not encouraged at the time. Some rifles were also built in .38-56, .40-82, and .50-110. The latter two calibers are ones that I do not as yet own. The search continues.
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Luck, I think. Late 1886s interest me very much, something that most collectors sort of ignore. If it isn't "antique", many don't want it. This suits me just fine; there's more for me.brno602 wrote:How do you find so many 86 Win's?
I Like reading your posts but D** how do you do it?
I hope to use my 86 on Moose this fall if I get my draw.
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