POLITICS - Top Court Date For Gun Ban Case (March 18th)

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here ... politely.

Moderators: AmBraCol, Hobie

Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Post Reply
don Tomás
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 961
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:42 am
Location: Kalifornia Sierra Nevada

POLITICS - Top Court Date For Gun Ban Case (March 18th)

Post by don Tomás »

Better mark March 18th on your calender. I think this is either going to be really really good :D or really really bad :cry: ...
Tom
(Sorry, Hobie; definitely not OT, maybe POLITICS, is there a SURVIVAL label?)


Top Court Sets Date For Gun Ban Case


WASHINGTON (Map, News) - The U.S. Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in the D.C. gun ban case on March 18, the court announced Tuesday.

Justices have cleared their slate for D.C. vs. Heller, perhaps the most important 2nd Amendment case the court has tackled in 70 years. Arguments will begin at 10 a.m.

At stake is the District’s total ban on handguns, its drastic limits on other firearms, and perhaps gun control laws in cities and states nationwide.

The fight boils down to whether the U.S. Constitution guarantees individuals or militias the right to keep and bear arms.

The District’s gun ban was tossed out last spring by a lower court, setting up a potentially historic battle before the nine justices.

The District filed its first brief in the case on Jan. 4. In it, the city argued that its existing law is reasonable, that D.C. has the same right as states to restrict firearms, and that the 2nd Amendment speaks only to the arming of state militias.

The respondents, representing D.C. resident and firearm owner Dick Anthony Heller, must file their first brief by Feb. 3. The District will then have the opportunity to respond in writing prior to oral arguments.

Leading the District’s team is former U.S. Solicitor General Walter Dellinger. He could not be reached for comment.

Alan Gura of Gura & Possessky will argue for Heller.

Gura said he is looking forward to arguing the case before the highest court in the land. It’ll be the first time he’s argued before the Supreme Court.

“The law is very clear,â€
Tom

Image

'A Man's got to have a code...
I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

-John Bernard Books. Jan. 22, 1901
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28848
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Post by Ysabel Kid »

With the Justice Department's recent stab in the back of all gun owners, I am fearing the worst. Looks like Bush 43 has not fallen far from the Bush 41 tree... :(

Gosh I hope I'm wrong. I think we can count on Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito to ignore the nonsense from the Solicitor General. They know what the Constitution means - and the Second Amendment is meaningless if the government can say "except" every time it feels like it.

This may ride on one man - Justice Kennedy. God help us all...
Image
User avatar
JReed
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 5509
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:17 am
Location: SoCal

Post by JReed »

I will include them in my prayers that they find the wisdom to make the right decision.
Jeremy
GySgt USMC Ret

To err is human, To forgive is devine, Neither of which is Marine Corps policy
Semper Fidelis
don Tomás
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 961
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:42 am
Location: Kalifornia Sierra Nevada

Post by don Tomás »

Ysabel Kid wrote:...and the Second Amendment is meaningless if the government can say "except" every time it feels like it...
Come on, Kid, you know the Constitution (like the Bible) is a living breathing document that you can change to fit whatever you want... [/sarcasm]

I think Jeremy has the right idea...
Tom
Tom

Image

'A Man's got to have a code...
I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

-John Bernard Books. Jan. 22, 1901
Jeeps
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 597
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:27 pm
Location: New York :-(

Post by Jeeps »

If SCOTUS doesn't explain to the govt. what "shall not infringe" means then
we might as well be nailed to a tree.
Jeeps

Image

Semper Fidelis

Pay attention to YOUR Bill of Rights, in this day and age it is all we have.
jnyork
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 4470
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:33 pm
Location: Wyoming and Arizona

Post by jnyork »

I fear we are in for some very tough times ahead. Sure hope I'm wrong. :cry:
Charles
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:29 pm
Location: Deep South Texas

Post by Charles »

Jeeze... You guys are such a bunch of negative scared folks. This is what we have been waiting for. I thought SCOTUS would find some procedural issue to dodge this bullet, but they didn't.

I have been following gun related law since I was in Law School back in the mid-60s. All of the indicators are in our favor at this point in time. The Emerson case broke it all open and it is apparent that the great weight of legal scholarship in on the side of the 2nd. Admendment being an individual right.

The lower court will be upheld and the DC law will be struck down as an unreasonable infringment of the 2nd. Amendment. The decision won't open the flood gate to abolish all firearms legislation. Don't expect that.

I know there are folks who think anything less than having the right to carry a loaded M-60 with them into the mall is an infringment, but those folks will be disappointed. But for the rest of the gun community, it will be a great victory.

Cheer up lads..you are starting to be a drag! I know many on this board thrive on hatred of the Goverment and see nothing but doom and gloom for this country. I don't share that pessimestic view on life in this great country. Lordy, I hope I never do! It is a pee poor way to live.
Leverdude
Senior Levergunner
Posts: 1518
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:25 pm
Location: Norwalk CT

Post by Leverdude »

Charles wrote:Jeeze... You guys are such a bunch of negative scared folks. This is what we have been waiting for. I thought SCOTUS would find some procedural issue to dodge this bullet, but they didn't.

I have been following gun related law since I was in Law School back in the mid-60s. All of the indicators are in our favor at this point in time. The Emerson case broke it all open and it is apparent that the great weight of legal scholarship in on the side of the 2nd. Admendment being an individual right.

The lower court will be upheld and the DC law will be struck down as an unreasonable infringment of the 2nd. Amendment. The decision won't open the flood gate to abolish all firearms legislation. Don't expect that.

I know there are folks who think anything less than having the right to carry a loaded M-60 with them into the mall is an infringment, but those folks will be disappointed. But for the rest of the gun community, it will be a great victory.

Cheer up lads..you are starting to be a drag! I know many on this board thrive on hatred of the Goverment and see nothing but doom and gloom for this country. I don't share that pessimestic view on life in this great country. Lordy, I hope I never do! It is a pee poor way to live.
I know this is two months old, but I hadn't seen Charles response.
I dont much understand law but I totally agree with him. I dont understand how two simple sentences can not say what they say & figure they have to find acording to the amendent so this should be great. :D
Post Reply