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Maybe I just woke up, after a loooooooong nap - but I just spotted this new Marlin Model 336 BL (Big Lever), a blued .30-30 with lamo stock, 18 1/2" bbl, & mid-loop lever.
I like the look of the lever on that. But when are arms makers going to quit selling plywood stocks and claiming they're better that a good solid hunk of wood? Seems like almost every "new" model that Marlin puts out lately has "laminate" (good word for good ole fashion plywood) stocks
I seem to remember that some military arms had laminate stocks. But at lesast they admitted it was done to save money and or wood.
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JReed wrote:Well jeepnik may not like it but I think it looks good.
Yea, but you probably like the look of AR's too.
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I think that gun looks great. I don't care if it is laminated it probably is more stable than wood.
I plan on buying one as soon as I come across one. But I am getting mine in 45-70.
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Don't get me wrong, I love a nice piece of walnut any day of the week. But, the laminated does take more abuse than standard wood. It will not soak up as much moisture nor crack as easily. It's one reason why many AK series rifles have laminated wood on them. It's pretty darn durable. Besides, the current walnut Marlin seems to be using looks like it was pulled from the bottom of the Mississippi river.
jeepnik wrote:I like the look of the lever on that. But when are arms makers going to quit selling plywood stocks and claiming they're better that a good solid hunk of wood? Seems like almost every "new" model that Marlin puts out lately has "laminate" (good word for good ole fashion plywood) stocks
I seem to remember that some military arms had laminate stocks. But at lesast they admitted it was done to save money and or wood.
They (the arms makers) are NOT going to quit selling plywood stocks and claiming they're better than a good solid hunk of wood UNTIL the buying public quits asking for and buying them.
By-the-way, those plywood, laminated, stocks are better in some cases/uses than those solid hunks of wood.
jeepnik wrote:I like the look of the lever on that. But when are arms makers going to quit selling plywood stocks and claiming they're better that a good solid hunk of wood? Seems like almost every "new" model that Marlin puts out lately has "laminate" (good word for good ole fashion plywood) stocks
I seem to remember that some military arms had laminate stocks. But at lesast they admitted it was done to save money and or wood.
They (the arms makers) are NOT going to quit selling plywood stocks and claiming they're better than a good solid hunk of wood UNTIL the buying public quits asking for and buying them.
By-the-way, those plywood, laminated, stocks are better in some cases/uses than those solid hunks of wood.
I prefer walnut also, at leasy this offering is blued steel. If I weren't so 30-30 poor I'd be tempted.
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jeepnik wrote:I like the look of the lever on that. But when are arms makers going to quit selling plywood stocks and claiming they're better that a good solid hunk of wood? Seems like almost every "new" model that Marlin puts out lately has "laminate" (good word for good ole fashion plywood) stocks
I seem to remember that some military arms had laminate stocks. But at lesast they admitted it was done to save money and or wood.
They (the arms makers) are NOT going to quit selling plywood stocks and claiming they're better than a good solid hunk of wood UNTIL the buying public quits asking for and buying them.
By-the-way, those plywood, laminated, stocks are better in some cases/uses than those solid hunks of wood.
Never said they weren't servicable. Just ugly as all get out. And as we all know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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I hope that I don't trample on many of your feelings but that Marlin is THE most graceless levergun I have ever seen. PHUGLY is the key word, I believe.
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Jeepnik AKA "Old Eyes"
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
I'd probably swap the wood out but otherwise I like it. At least they kept to the short rifle theme instead of useing a forend cap & forward band. If they make a 1894 like that I think I'll have alot of trouble keeping away from it.
Pete44ru wrote:Maybe I just woke up, after a loooooooong nap - but I just spotted this new Marlin Model 336 BL (Big Lever), a blued .30-30 with lamo stock, 18 1/2" bbl, & mid-loop lever.
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They make an 1895 just like it in 45-70 . If they made this in a 444 I'd get one and replace the stocks with walnut
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You could use it for home security, deer/elk/black bear hunting, and even a boat paddle if push came to shove.
That gun is designed for nothing but service to its owner. If I hadn't just bought a new handgun, I would certainly be in the market for it.
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i'm not a fan of the laminates but that one looks pretty kewl and very functional. the oversized lever looks similar to my WWG co-pilots though it is a straight stock (kevlar). Now the kevlar stock is ugly but I could always use it as a paddle if I need to. With my renewed interest in BP, I'm tempted to put the Co-Pilot up for sale, trying to resist.
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Mike D. wrote:I hope that I don't trample on many of your feelings but that Marlin is THE most graceless levergun I have ever seen. PHUGLY is the key word, I believe.
Got to agree with Mike. Even a nice walnut stock won't help them.
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6pt-sika wrote:They make an 1895 just like it in 45-70 . If they made this in a 444 I'd get one and replace the stocks with walnut
If you're referring to the 1895CB, it's just like it except it IS a '95, it's a 45-70 and it doesn't have a pistol grip stock, and it's real wood, and it has an octagon barrel, and it doesn't have that "guppy" forearm, and it doesn't have that silly big-loop lever, and it's not micro-grove, and ...and...
Well, I like it. And I guess other people do also because Davidsons got in 6 last week and they were all gone the next day. For you purists I love walnut but the laminate is stronger. This looks like a fine deer rifle for the Northern states as you could keep you gloves on and still shoot.
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Fer a woods gun, ATV gun, snow gun... it works. Fer pretty, not so much. At least plywood is a combination of wood and plastic. Beats hell out of pure unadulterated recycled clorox bottles...
I like it. I don't expect every rifle coming out of the factory today to look like a fine antique. Also, I believe what is normally called plywood has the grain of each layer at 90 degrees to the adjacent layer, not parallel like this laminate. Maybe splittin' hairs there, I don't know...
I like it a bunch. Thant includes the look of the laminate stock.
If you don't like the laminate stock, they do make the 336 deluxe, so you walnut lovers have a special model.
Features upgraded fancy walnut. I've seen one and the picture does not do the wood justice.
But still have to say, I do like the look of the BL.
BTW, before the relocation was announced, Marlin was going to make the big loop levers available later this year. May have to wait for the relocation now. I'd like to get one for my 338MX. Those of us who live where winter gloves are worn when hunting like the big loops.
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Quietman, I saw over at Marlinowners You picked up the .338. Have You shot it Yet? I have run 15 rounds of the Hornady ammo thru My MX and like it.waiting for the Remington ammo to compare the two. . And I do like the Bl 30-30.
There's also an 1894 deluxe. Here's what makes it a deluxe model- from the Marlin site
These rifles exhibit features such as
* #1 Grade Full Fancy American Black Walnut Stock and Fore-end
- 30- 50% Figure Both Sides of Stock
* Polished Deep Blue Finish on Metal Parts
* Hand Assembled and Tuned by a Marlin Senior Craftsmen.
* Each Model Will Have a Unique Serial Number Range --- 336DL001 and 94DL0001.
* Packaged in a Padded Doskocil Molded Case
* Decorative Color Sleeve with Fall Hunting Scene on case
* Production Timeframe: November 2009 - March 2010
There's a link to the dealers you can order it through on that page.
.45colt wrote:Quietman, I saw over at Marlinowners You picked up the .338. Have You shot it Yet? I have run 15 rounds of the Hornady ammo thru My MX and like it.waiting for the Remington ammo to compare the two. . And I do like the Bl 30-30.
Not yet. Scope is on it's way, should be here Friday.
Also, have to send it back to Marlin as it has the fail to feed issue others have run into. May take it out shooting anyway if the shipping label doesn't get here before Friday. Otherwise, it'll be off to Marlin before shooting it. Means I'd have to load it by hand one shot at a time though.
And yes it's because it looks like a Win 1894 . Why they can't just remake the '93 has been a mystery to me.
I don't mind the laminate when it's the gray-green variety as it doesn't pretend to be otherwise, and not bad (along with the lever) in the 45-70 Alaskan (?)/guide gun. The "slimmer" cartridge guns--at least--need to be, uh, slimmer.