357 Carbine Deer hunters...

BigBoreWhore · Post by **BigBoreWhore** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:28 pm

What bullet do you guys use and why?

Looking into the remington 158sp and 180hp
along with 180xtp's and partitions...

Keep in mind that we harvest a pile of 200lb+ bucks up here in Maine every year...

I have been thinking using one of the Rem/Hornady 180's for practice/small deer and the Partitions for big woods hunting...

I want to try my hand with the 1894c this year, Might feel a little nekid without the 45-70's or 30-30's but, I kind of like a challenge.

Raffica

deerwhacker444 · Post by **deerwhacker444** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:41 pm

This is the only deer I've taken with my 357 in 1894C, about a 40 yard shot, quartering away:

180gr. XTP. Bullet went into ribs on one side out out the neck on the opposite side and kept going, no recovery.

This buck was dead when the hammer fell, although I had to track him a bit.

I have no experience with deer on the order of 200lbs, but I expect the results would be similar.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:43 pm

Hard to beat a heavy Cast Bullet going as fast as you can push it... especially when you need penetration as much (or more) than you need expansion.

I shoot the "Junior Load" of an air-cooled WW 180gr GC cast bullet over 16gr LilGun. Runs at 1800fps.

That's the equivelent of the Buffalo Bore round.

IMO if you can get a commercial 180 bullet to go that fast, penetrate AND expand, then you're doing great.

arjay · Post by **arjay** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:38 pm

I use factory 158jsp - this Red hind was shot through spine so no recovery. I have complete faith after seeing damage. I allowed for drop that I shouldn't have worried about!

gon2shoot · Post by **gon2shoot** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:47 pm

I generally use 158gr, but I've seen 180s do things I didnt think possible for somthing with a "3" in it.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:09 pm

gon2shoot wrote:I generally use 158gr, but I've seen 180s do things I didnt think possible for somthing with a "3" in it.

300 WinMag?

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:14 pm

207 grain hard cast.
I used it because it was the heaviest I could get better than 1500 fps from accurately.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:16 pm

180 gr. cast with wheelweights, propelled by 16.0 gr. LilGun. Only killed one deer with this combo so far, but he piled up where he was standing.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:18 pm

Tycer wrote:207 grain hard cast.
I used it because it was the heaviest I could get better than 1500 fps from accurately.

But you're a beast... and your gun is chambered for .360 Dan Wesson...

Dave James · Post by **Dave James** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:30 pm

First or second post here so here goes,,,, For deer and hogs when I have the chance to use it I prefer the Bearthooth 200 grain cast,loaded a little warm in my Rossi-92 carbine,

Have used the 145 grain silver tips on the smaller deer here in VA. but not often and kept the shots to under 75 meters.

A few I have seen taken with factory have been mostly Cor-Bon and Buffalo Bore stuff, worked very well

Marlin .35 · Post by **Marlin .35** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:54 pm

I think I am going to think about getting a .357 Mag carbine. These reports are impressive. Guess I will have to start shopping and employ the credit card!! Art

canonsix · Post by **canonsix** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:57 pm

180gr with 16.5 grains LilGun. Doug

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:07 pm

Marlin .35 wrote:I think I am going to think about getting a .357 Mag carbine. These reports are impressive. Guess I will have to start shopping and employ the credit card!! Art

Might as well jump on board with the rest of us.

A lot of folks still under estimate how potent a 357 levergun is. A 180 gr. bullet at 1800+ fps ain't far behind other "proven" deer killers like the 30-30 and 35 Rem.

pharmseller · Post by **pharmseller** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:38 pm

Go here:
http://www.castbullet.com/shooting/shooting.htm

Read this:
Rossi Model 92 357 Mag Hog Rifle 10-30-04
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stretch · Post by **stretch** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:52 am

You've got that right, TedH!

There's probably more energy in the load you described than
in the original loading for the 30-30. And the 357 makes a
bigger hole. Nothin' wrong with that load for whitetail or
even black bear at shorter ranges.