any body like tennessee

[a357lever]

I am looking to leave NY the state died yaers ago its now a left wing socialist test tube, I have been looking at some property in tn. Any thoughts i am retierd and not looking for work just a peaceful christian area to live out my years.

ps i am looking at nw near ky border dyersberg milan , or just south of there.

[madman4570]

Got a good buddy that lives in Murfreesboro (very nice place)

[Doc Hudson]

I don't live in Tennessee, yet, but I certainly like it, especially Eastern Tennessee.

Pokynojoe, a member here, moved from western New York to Eastern Tennessee some years ago. I'm sure he'd be able to answer lots of questions for you.

IMO, Tennessee would be a good choice.

[El Chivo]

I lived there a few months doing a school intership - that was in Nashville. I liked it ok, but I was into the music. I didn't hunt then.

I passed through Memphis three times in the last few years, I have a nice impression of that city. That corner of the state, bordering on Alabama, has the highest concentrations of deer anywhere.

I would do it. I'm thinking of going there or Alabama or Kentucky myself in a few years.

[2ndovc]

I know every time I drive through there I want to stay!
To us Flatlanders those are some nice mountains!

jb

[BwanaDave]

I have been living near Knoxville for a little over a year now. Before that I was in New Mexico so I have been spoiled. The biggest change for me is the lack of public land where you can just go out and shoot where you want. I am still learning but so far all the bigger sections I have found are also WMAs, wildlife management areas, and you cannot have a gun there unless it is hunting season and you are licensed for that hunt. Then the gun must be the type approved for the hunt and you can only have it out during hunting hours.

This year will be my first year deer hunting here so I am spending a lot of time scouting for deer hunting areas. When you ask questions no one seems to know anything. It has really been a chore. I have found a good source of info at the TN deer forum. From what I have read their it sounds like you have to be careful about your tree stand and camp as people will steal stuff. That kind of problem was unheard of in NM, you would be shot.

In TN it is a good idea to stay out of Wal Mart on Saturdays because that is the time all the fat people come out and fight over the limited supply of electric scooter shopping carts, most Wal Marts here only have about 20 or so. However, as opposed to NY, people tend to give you a bit more elbow room.

There are a lot of really ignorant people here, maybe that is true for everywhere. In NM I didn't notice it as much because I don't speak Spanish. Coming from NY you will probably be impressed by the high caliber of the locals. Lets see, who haven't I insulted?

On the good side, people take care of themselves down here, they don't rely on the Gov and don't trust it. This may be a hangover from the War of Northern Aggression but it is good. Even the most ignorant have a much more open view when looking at the difference of North South views. Here people say they have their ways we have ours. On the other hand Northeners tend to think it is their way or nothing. It makes one wonder who is really myopic and provincial. In the War of Northern Aggression it wasn't the South trying to force its way on the North. (these comments are not about slavery which was dying and would have ended with or with out the war)

By the way, Tennessee, although a member of the CSA was not a real big slave state, mountain folk were to poor to own any. Even today the black population outside of Memphis is low in most of the state. One of my neighbors, an elderly woman of great poise told me, "I don't know why they caused us so much trouble we hardly had any slaves at all". We also don't have many of our friends from south of the border either. Being a Westerner it took me a while to get used to seeing young white guys mowing lawns.

Since I have touched on racial matters here I will speak to them, There is still bigotry here and you wll encounter it at times. Hpwever that is true everywhere from all sides. However the vast majority of people just want to get along with each other. My first exposure to it was at a social function at a beautiful home that could only be called an estate. I was sitting near the elderly owner who I had never met before. Out of the blue he blurts out "it all started with Casiaus Clay". I said "excuse me". Then he added " we wouldn't have the problems we have today if they would have thrown his black *** in jail". I didn't know what to say, I mean I am his guest and all. After a brief pause I matter of factly stated, "I never thought of it that way".

Housing here is cheap but that is true of many areas out West too. Many of the Western states are less crowded with more public land which I see as a big plus.

It can be hot and humid here and I struggle with bugs and their bites since I spend a lot of time hiking.

You nor I will ever be truly acepted as a Southerner, we will always be outsiders. I think that is true for any area. Wallace Stegner spoke of his experience being an outsider in New England. Although a Westerner he had a home in New England for many years. Finally he asked someone why he was still treated as an outsider in many ways. The local responded "if a cat crawled into the oven and had kittens you wouldn't call them biscuits would you?"

If I were you I would give some thought to New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming and Montana. There are some great places at reasonable cost. There is lots of elbow room and they are gun friendly.

Dave

[RIHMFIRE]

Check out maryville...
Very nice town south of knoxville
anywhere in tn is better than ny

[kimwcook]

I've only spent a very short time in Tennessee, around Nashville. But, I'll tell you it wouldn't make my list of places to live. Too hot and humid. It was in September when I was there and it was still 90+ degrees and higher in humidity. I would sweat just walking from the hotel room to the car and I did a lot of walking there. People were all very nice and honestly talk to you with sincerity, not because they had to. Love the sweet tea.

[Idahoser]

I think we'll be among the two or three last to be eaten by the Communists, but that's going to happen everywhere so this is infinitely better than where you are now. Then again almost any place would be.

You've waited too long to find a "good" place though, it's dying everywhere. The cancer has spread from your and the other deep red states. (this "blue state" for commie propaganda started in 2000)

Do stay FAR away from Memphrica.

[BwanaDave]

Idahoser, I like that... Memphrica. It has the ring of truth to it.

Dave

[Rusty]

My wife would move up there tomorrow If I'd agree to it. We've always like E. Tenn. Cleveland has always been my favorite.

[Griff]

My dad grew up around Crossville, TN. I can remember his favorite saying. "I'm glad I'm from TN... as far as I can get!"

However, after retiring in the early '80s to a place in AZ (Bullhead City) after living in SoCal for nearly 30 years, he found the summers a tad too warm. Other'n a few scattered cousins, all his family was from East Tennessee. So him & my Mom moved back and haven't looked back once! Jamestown is about as far West as you should probably look. That's where the great weather divide lies... drop down off the Plateau and you're going to find it significantly warmer and more humid. Not that it doesn't get hot and humid up top... but it cools off better and that "hot 'n wet" season is shorter.

I have 45 acres north of town that was left by my Uncle, and I love it there... if only the wife would be willin' to try living with no 'lectricity! Well... for anything other'n lights and a 'fridge... still hand pump water and outhouses...

Frankly, there isn't a better place to live than Southern California... it's just that it's ruined by too many people and the political atmosphere leaves a LOT to be desired. There simply isn't a better place on the planet with better weather... if you like it mild.

[Idahoser]

living without electricity... You know I've thought about that. I know there's such a thing as a fuel cell that's supposed to give all the hot water and electricity you need, for a household. No earthly idea whether it's priced for humans, but there IS such a thing. I guess you'd get propane delivered just like anybody else.

[Ysabel Kid]

Used to go up to the Tri-City area (northeastern part) often for business. It was beautiful. If I remember correctly, TN doesn't have a state income tax - or at least they didn't until recently. Cost of living in the south is head and shoulders better than NY or anyplace in the northeast. Lots of friendly people - good solid stock - and generally still pro-American, pro-gun, and pro-God!

[Griff]

living without electricity... You know I've thought about that. I know there's such a thing as a fuel cell that's supposed to give all the hot water and electricity you need, for a household. No earthly idea whether it's priced for humans, but there IS such a thing. I guess you'd get propane delivered just like anybody else.

Actually, I exaggerated, should have said "light". Propane? What fer? There's a perfectly good Sears, Roebuck & Co. wood stove in the kitchen and a "Ben Franklin" stove upstairs in the "master" bedroom. You can tell it from the other'n by the presence of the stove. Bath tub is downstairs near water source as carrying enough for the tub to be upstairs seems like too much a chore for such a small convienence.

[C. Cash]

My Dad's side of the family had it's roots in the Ten Mile region, by way of Jonesboro. Hope to see that part of the country someday....sounds beautiful.

[Idahoser]

...If I remember correctly, TN doesn't have a state income tax - or at least they didn't until recently.

you remember correctly. They tried a few times, haven't given up on it, but so far they haven't done that.

and generally still pro-American, pro-gun, and pro-God!

but moving the wrong way; but as said earlier, we're going to be among the last to be eaten by the monster.

[a357lever]

yes pro 2nd ammendment and pro GOD!

"Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked"
1st psalms
good bye NY good ridins'

[buckeyeshooter]

I used to have the state as part of the area I managed for work. I was not too fond of Nashville because it is a big city. Memphis tended to be a bit 'rough' crimewise. But the rest of the state, especially Knoxville was very pleasant. I would move there in a minute!

[HEAD0001]

There is some good hunting in TN. Liberal seasons, and some early seasons. However for me TN shines with its fishing opps. I owned a piece of ground for years at the head of Dale Hollow Lake(KY). Man what a great area. You are also a few miles from Lake Cumberland, and 2 hrs. form Land between the Lakes(KY. lake, and Lake Barkley). I like this part of the state. But then if I were you I would strongly consider WV. Not as hot as TN can get in the summer. However TN is growing because of income tax issues. I am sure that is one of the reasons you are considering TN. However the cost of living is much higher in TN than what it is in WV. WV really is an inexpensive place to live. You can still buy a small 100 acre farm with a decent house for around $150,000-$200.000. Or just the property alone for $1,000 an acre. So you can shoot on your own 100 acres for a decent price. And property taxes are not bad either. I own several pieces of ground but with farm exclusions your taxes are only around $300 or $400 a year(100-150 acre tracts). Heck NY is that much a month in some places. Tom.

[TNBigBore]

I have lived in Murfreesboro, Morristown, Maryville and Knoxville and have lots of relatives in Middle and East TN. I would move back to TN in a second given the opportunity. The scenery is beautiful, the people are as nice as any you will find anywhere, the hunting and fishing are great and there is no state income tax. I consider it God's country.

With that said, there are plenty of ignorant fools in Tennessee as there are in all states. There is a kernel of truth to nearly all of the stereotypes. If you move to rural East TN especially, be prepared for the clanishness of the people. They have been isolated geographically for nearly 200 years and have been ridiculed in the media for nearly that long. They are naturally suspicious of outsiders, especially loud and boisterous outsiders. It takes a long time for an outsider to be accepted into their society. Middle TN is much friendlier to outsiders and doesnt rank far behind East TN in scenery. The deer hunting is much better in Middle TN as well. East TN has much better trout fishing though. I would not live in West TN as it is just as hot and humid as Alabama and too flat for my tastes.

[2571]

Married a girl from TN who lived in the next town south of Murfreeesboro. Been driving through M'fboro for 2-3 times a year for 40 years.

I hate the place. Nothing but traffic, traffic, traffic & college kids. It is not like rural TN but is populated by Asian sub continent immigrants. So many so that you see some gas stations that have signs saying, "Tennessean since 1947", etc. All the other franchises are owned by folks who think and act like they are still in Calcutta.

College kids at MTSU are all right but are typical transient types -- there for 4 years and then off to start their real lives elsewhere. Large proportion of student body and college staff are non-Tennesseans.

Murfreesboro is also the center of the large hispanic commmunity in the state, too. Signs in many store windows are all written in Spanish. Some of their ethnic restaurants are petty good. My family speaks Mexican Spanish and I can go anywhere and talk Spanish in Murfreesboro.

Very little public hunting areas available; fishing is another thing with some good bass areas nearby if you'e willing to drive.

Like I say, I hate the place. Don't go there but don't judge rural TN by this part of the state. If I have'nt convinced you, let me add this last fact: Largest Walmart store in the world is there.

[Old No7]

Well, I sure like their Lincoln County method Sour Mash Whiskey...

Can ya tell?!?!?!

Good luck!

Old No7

ps: Lynchburg TN is in a "dry" county... Watch out for that!!!

[Jeff Quinn]

The area around Dyersburg is a good area. Lots of good hunting and fishing. I am a couple of counties east of there, in Stewart County. No income tax, but sales tax is 9.5 percent. Rural land is still pretty inexpensive, compared to much of the nation, and property tax is reasonable, if you stay out of the cities. This area of Tennessee is hot and humid in the Summer, but not too bad. Lots of bugs and critters. Good growing season, plenty of rainfall, so you can have a lush garden if you want to.
This year's onion and pepper crop are looking good so far:

[pokynojoe]

I don't live in Tennessee, yet, but I certainly like it, especially Eastern Tennessee.

Pokynojoe, a member here, moved from western New York to Eastern Tennessee some years ago. I'm sure he'd be able to answer lots of questions for you.

IMO, Tennessee would be a good choice.

So this is where you are! Hello Doc! How are you and Marcia?

A few corrections. First off, I moved here from Mississippi, and before that, 6 years in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.

I've had the good fortune over the last 28 years to live and work in all three grand divisions of the Volunteer State, and each of them has things to recommend them. Currently I live in East Tennesse, and have for the last 12 years.

1. Hunting.
If you can't find a place to hunt,well, you're just not looking. I would suggest joining a gun club they are inexpensive, the people are welcoming and eager for you to join, and you'll have plenty of places to hunt. I've been involved in the sport of Archery for some 40 years now and our archery club has a deer camp for two weeks in October and anyone, not just members, (although it only costs 100.00 a year to join), is welcome to come. There are plenty of deer. Among the places I hunt is Lincoln County (my wife was raised on a farm there) and as just an example, the antlerless deer bag limit is 3 per day. I can hunt deer from the 4th Saturday in September to January 15th. I'm not greedy, one or two is enough for me. Ok? 'nuff said about that. WMA's are abundant, and between "open" hunts and quota hunts, I've never had any problem getting more hunting days then I can take off from work. Turkeys are everywhere. I've even had them stroll through my back yard and I currently live in a subdivision. If Bear hunting is your thing, we've got'em, even in town sometimes! Only the counties that border the North Carolina state line are open for bear hunting though. Wild Hogs are prolific and the TWRA wants you to shoot as many of them, as often as you can. I agree, as far as deer and turkey, the further west you go, the better and bigger they are.

To the poster that just recently moved here, check out the John Sevier center on rifle range road in K-town. You'll meet plenty of friendly folks that are willing to help. The Volunteer Gun Club, would be a good place to join, and if per chance, you’re an archer, I guarantee you; you'll be more than welcome at my club, Smokey Mountain Archers, which is also at John Sevier Hunting education center. Also, check out the Oak Ridge Sportsmen Association. They are more exclusive, but you'll meet members there from all over the world. If you're looking for competitive shooting sports, that's the place. They send a team to Camp Perry every year, and have for years.

2. The people.
Ignorant? Clannish? Still fighting the Civil War? I think you're being too judgmental. In my neighborhood, most of my neighbors work at Oak Ridge National Laboratory. I'm surrounded by PH.D's from all over the world. Is there ignorance here? Yes. There is also stifling poverty. Just like everywhere else in this country I lived throughout my life, and I've lived in quite a few places. The people here in the East do seem to be more reserved than western volunteers. Look, all I can tell you is that my work, over the last 26 years has taken me into every nook and cranny of this state, and I can't remember one time, when I didn't get a friendly smile or hello in return, from the people I've encountered. Maybe I'm just generally a "swell" guy, I don't know. It's been my experience that if you treat people with respect, it's returned, no matter where you live.

3.Race.
All I can tell you is that if you have a problem with a person’s race or ethnicity, move to Norway.

4.City mouse or Country mouse?
I love all four metropolitan areas. I've lived in three of them. My wife's a farm girl. What's a boy to do? I love living in the country, but I have had no qualms living in any of the cities here. They are all unique and have wonderful cultural, entertainment, museums, and such to offer. The State Museum in Nashville is one of the best I've visited (and not just because my wife has 12 of her murals on permanent exhibit there!). Nashville is called "The Athens of the South" there is so much more than just country music going on there.

As far as purchasing land that's inexpensive, that depends on your definition of inexpensive. Up here, you can purchase "vertical land" pretty cheap, if that's what you want. There is and has been a tremendous influx of Floridians and particularly Michiganders the last decade. They seem to have "bags" of money, comparatively speaking. Many of the "lost souls" that migrated north to work in the auto industry during the "Big One" are returning "home,” and they've got dough! Cheap land is an oxymoron, at least for a lowly civil servant like me. I'm trying to find a piece of affordable land in Lincoln County to retire to, NOT GONNA BE EASY. My brother-in-law is retiring from the Navy as a Captain as soon as he gets back from Pakistan. He found affordable land in Hancock County, you might try there. It's pretty isolated, Sneedville just has a Piggly Wiggly and a pizza joint, and it too, is pretty "vertical." They are retirement communities sprinkled all up and down the Cumberland Plateau area, and most of the people living in them are from up North, or somewhere other than "here." In conclusion, if you want to find some decent affordable (and this depends on your definition of affordable) land, that doesn't require a rope ladder to get in the front door of your house; HURRY!

4. Medical, Taxes, Schools Oh my!
Property taxes are cheap, no doubt about it. Most, if not all of your county property taxes go to schools. It doesn't seem to make much difference, our schools are rated 49th or 50th, may be one year I think we were 48th. People around here used to say "thank god for Arkansas and Mississippi." They're not saying that anymore. The drop out rate is staggering, over 50%. As has been stated, there is no State Income Tax, but they will nickel and dime you anyway they can. Sales tax is 9.5% and that is on EVERYTHING, but prescription drugs, I think. I have it on good authority it WILL be higher by the time you move here. Tax reform is coming; we're all just not sure what form it will take. Car registration is around 24 dollars a year, I think, most counties also have a "Wheel Tax" which varies anywhere from 20 to 50 or so dollars a year, maybe a little more, or less. Some of the highest car insurance premiums I've ever paid in all the states I've lived in, I paid here. Don't really know why, although I suspect it's because of the crappy drivers and the University. One more thing about driving here, apparently when you purchase a car in Tennessee, turn signals are optional equipment, that few, if any purchasers buy. Oh, and if by some chance it should snow, even if it's only hinting at snowing, stay HOME, DON'T DRIVE. There is something in the genetic make-up of native Tennesseans that requires them to do just the opposite during inclement weather. They are compelled to get out and drive as fast and as recklessly as possible, even though they are unable to grasp the concept of driving on snow covered roads. But it's ok, they can't help themselves, god love 'em.
My wife has problems with her vision from time to time. Our local ophthalmologist was unable to diagnose the problem, and told us there really were only two places to go down here, Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, or Vanderbilt Medical Center in Nashville. He further said that if it was him, he'd go to Emory. That's where we go every year or so. Keep this in mind if you have medical problems and you want to live "out in the sticks." We have one of the highest infant mortality rates in the country, diabetes is rampant. And please adhere to the following advice: IF YOU, OR A LOVED ONE, SUFFERS FROM ALLERGIES, DON'T MOVE HERE, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!! I can't stress this enough. Here, there are allergy clinics on every corner, my wife's allergist told us this is the WORST PLACE, I REPEAT, WORST PLACE in the entire country for allergy sufferers to live, especially in the Eastern Grand Division. My wife didn't seem to suffer to badly in Middle or West TN, though if that helps any. Oh and yea, my wife never had an allergy problem until we moved to Tennessee.
Just be prepared for the fact that if you suffer from a serious disease or ailment, you might find it prudent to seek out medical expertise somewhere else. Here's another example: My wife's partner is just 40 years old and was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer about a year ago. She was referred to a local Oncologist in Knoxville that was supposed to be "One of the best in the State." She started the prescribed treatment and wasn't improving. On a whim, she scheduled an evaluation at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas. She flew out there and the course of treatment they prescribed was 180 degrees opposite of what the local guy started her on. She stayed out there for six months and is now cancer free. They told her she would have been dead for sure in six months had she continued on with the treatment prescribed locally. It’s not all gloom and doom. There are some very good internists here. The trick is to find one that knows his/her limitations, and is connected with the medical community on a regional, if not national basis. Not an easy thing to do, kind of like trying to find an honest lawyer.

5. Do you need some church’in up?
Then by golly, Tennessee is the place for you! There’s a church on every corner. There are faiths here of every persuasion, and a lot I’ve never even heard of, ‘til I moved here.

6. Employment.
Here’s my observation: Unless you have a pretty desirable skill, or are incredibly resourceful, you might want to look elsewhere. There’s a lot I can say about this, but not here. For now, I’ll just say that Tennessee is a “right to work” state. What that means is, you can be fired for a good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all.

7. Football.
I’ve added this because it’s something that you cannot escape if you live here, no matter how hard you try. If you are allergic to, or some how find the colors orange and white particularly obnoxious, don’t move here. The good thing about football here is that it takes place during prime hunting season, which means that on any given Saturday during the Fall, most guys are home watching the “Big Orange” and not in the woods. I’m not particularly interested in football, and if you are of like mind, keep in mind, that if you move here, you will have to listen to all manner of people talking about it, endlessly, for most of the year. On the other hand, if your blood runs orange, or if your one of those people that has split screen tv’s and watches three games at once, then you’ll be like a
pig in slop here. I have to say though, that I find the discipline and work ethic of Pat Summitt admirable, and I have been known, on occasion, to attend a Lady Vols basketball game.

8. Housing.
Here there’s some good news. All I can say is, I can’t imagine being able to live in as much house as I do, on my meager salary, anywhere in the country I’ve ever lived.

I have quite a few observations of my life here, but that’s enough for now. I would be glad to answer any and all questions any one might have, if I’m able. Keep in mind that I don’t spend a lot of time on a computer, in fact, I generally find them annoying. I imagine most of you have quit reading this long ago. If however, you’re still reading this, I would just like to say in conclusion, that Tennessee has been good to me.

Having said that, if I’m lucky enough to retire, and I could afford to live anywhere, I’d pick a “little spread” in the Texas Hill Country. For me, I can’t imagine a more delightful place to live out my biblical “three score and ten.” Maybe my wife would quit sneezing her head off out there too!


Good luck ya’ll
Joe

[GoatGuy]

joe - I'm sure you or your wife has heard/read this before, but LOCALLY PRODUCED HONEY (pure, not pasturized, not grocery store bought) for her allergy problems is a sound remedy to try! Can be dosed as a tablespoon daily, or as we do and use such honey as our only sweetener. We've done so for more than 15 years. We purchase ours in bulk at the local health food store and pick-up 17-20 lbs per visit about twice a year. We keep no refined sugar in our home, except for use by the occasional company we have who have not acquired the taste for honey. I too am afflicted with what my daddy called "hay fever", but with this honey habit, my symptoms are non-existant or mild in their extreme. Do some google research and see what you may find regarding this recommendation. Couldn't hurt and just might help

Another observation; I can't determine from your posted reply whether you really like Tennessee or not. I suppose you must or would not have lived there so long. However, if you are solidly under the impression that the Texas Hill Country is such a good deal, wait 'til you get a real gander at property prices, real estate taxes and the dearth of free hunting opportunities, among other things. I'm a Texas refugee with a daughter and her family in Austin and a son and his family in Denton. Our family roots date back to 1844, but you won't find me moving back there anytime soon. No place is perfect, but only what one makes of it.

And the reply from our levergunner brother from Detroit confuses me as I wonder how someone living in Detroit would have so much negative to say about a state which he visits a few times a year for 40 years. Perhaps he may not really enjoy the visits with "family" that requires him to travel through such a "sorry" state to get there.

[hocbj23]

I have lived in Chattanooga Tennessee all my 70 years,with a stint in Birmingham,Nashville, and Jackson Mississippi thrown in.We have the best of all worlds in Chattanooga.Good hunting,fishing,mountains ,lakes and generally pretty country.Housing is Very affordable, we have a new Volkswagon plant and two new chem plants being built here so job picture is pretty good.No state income tax but sales tax is outta sight.People are generally very friendly.Schools suck as they do all over the state.But my kids all went to public school,and all got college degrees so ????.Humidity is bad August,September but other than that climate is good.wouldnt live anywhere else.Southern Middle Tennessee ,Winchester area is rural but beautiful and I would recommend that area if u want property,and name aint bad either.bj

[TNBigBore]

Married a girl from TN who lived in the next town south of Murfreeesboro. Been driving through M'fboro for 2-3 times a year for 40 years.

I hate the place. Nothing but traffic, traffic, traffic & college kids. It is not like rural TN but is populated by Asian sub continent immigrants. So many so that you see some gas stations that have signs saying, "Tennessean since 1947", etc. All the other franchises are owned by folks who think and act like they are still in Calcutta.

College kids at MTSU are all right but are typical transient types -- there for 4 years and then off to start their real lives elsewhere. Large proportion of student body and college staff are non-Tennesseans.

Murfreesboro is also the center of the large hispanic commmunity in the state, too. Signs in many store windows are all written in Spanish. Some of their ethnic restaurants are petty good. My family speaks Mexican Spanish and I can go anywhere and talk Spanish in Murfreesboro.

Very little public hunting areas available; fishing is another thing with some good bass areas nearby if you'e willing to drive.

Like I say, I hate the place. Don't go there but don't judge rural TN by this part of the state. If I have'nt convinced you, let me add this last fact: Largest Walmart store in the world is there.

What the heck are you talking about? I know I have not lived there since 2005, but I doubt it could have changed that much.

There is plenty of public hunting less than an hour's drive (some just outside city limits) from Murfreesboro including several state wildlife management areas. There are tons of deer in the area. Rutherford County is part of TN Unit L where you can harvest 3 antlerless deer per day during the generous gun season. There are tons of turkey as well.

Murfreesboro does have a sizeable Laotian community, but they are still a small minority of the population and far from influential in city affairs. The Hispanic population is growing, but to say that they dominate the area is misleading. They are expanding everywhere in the South. Murfreesboro is no exception.

MTSU students for the most part are from Middle Tennessee with a huge percentage from Nashville and Murfreesboro. A large percentage of students live close enough to commute to MTSU.

I will admit that Murfreesboro itself is somewhat flat and nondescript as far as landscape goes, but you can be in the rolling hills 10 minutes from town in any direction. The traffic is comparable to any similar sized growing city. It seems like nothing after you have lived in Atlanta or Birmingham.

There are almost innumerable good restaurants, lots of upscale shopping opportunities, very good public schools, a great kids Discovery Museum, Stones River National Battlefield Park, MTSU, a vibrant Old South downtown area, etc all just 35 minutes from Nashville. All this and you can be out in the boonies just a few miles from town in several directions.

It is far from perfect, but one of the better places I have lived. I would go back there is the opportunity presented itself. It sure beats the heck out of Birmingham for an outdoorsman like me.

[phc45-70]

Come on down you can have my place. Everytime I look up there's another Yankee standing there. Come up on three or four out at the range today. If everybody's goin'a move down here, I'm heading north. Got an old pair of snow shoes I'd like to try out fore I have to take up a rockin chair.

[a357lever]

can't blame ya , but i think you gave me a good perspective and an honest one thanks, I forgot about that. you would't like it here not in winter for shure but the people in west ny are very friendly.
AZ here i come , hey sheriff Joe you got another posse member back ! ......................




1st psalms & 58

[Manny]

I'm an Ohio boy born & raised, but have always felt I was meant to live further south. About anywhere in the mid-south appeals to me, Virginia, the Carolina's, Kentucky, but Tennessee especially has always called to me. Just seems like it'd be a great place to live with moderate weather and central location for getting darn near anywhere in a days drive. If I ever hook up with an adventuresome woman maybe I'll get there.

[Swampman]

I grew up there and IMO Tennessee is the best state in the union.

[a357lever]

buy the way the vegatables look great. but honestly i think there is still a great amount of dislike off "yankees". I wish a bunch of southerners would come up here and join shooting clubs and vote, it would help. But i lived in AZ in pheonix for a couple of years and while more expensive its still a free state. But the shooting and 2nd ammendment people and the churches shure make you feel welcome. there are also some great places in north az. I have 40 acers there, I think i'll just build a small cabin overall it may be a better idea. Some wounds just stay sore. just ask our president and his pastor.

[redhawk]

The one and only reason I could like TN is a daughter and new grandson live there