OT-12 ga slug tests

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:20 pm

Sorry if I'm getting annoying with posting my test results. I'm not trying to be self promotional, I just figure it might interest some of you.

Anyway, here are some 12 ga slug results

http://www.carbinecountry.com/Shotgun%2 ... Tests.html

deerwhacker444 · Post by **deerwhacker444** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:30 pm

I enjoy the tests, as I'm sure many on here do. Keep em coming. Geees,....those are some big holes.

RKrodle · Post by **RKrodle** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:54 pm

WOW, throwing big lead down range. That's interesting. What kind/brand of test media are you using. I assume it's reusable. I'm not big on slugs but they are hard to argue with. Great job, thanks.

Idiot · Post by **Idiot** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:23 pm

Thanks. I'm a slug nut too. I like the Brenneke 12GA 3 inch Black Magic Magnum. It uses hard lead pushed around 1,600 fps. It makes long big holes. I expect the .35 inch version of the same slug would just be more of a good thing.

Keep your eyes peeled, I expect Buffalo Bore to release a slug that is heavier and goes faster than the Black Magic Magnum. I don't know when it will come out, but I anxiously await.

Have fun.

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:25 pm

RKrodle wrote:WOW, throwing big lead down range. That's interesting. What kind/brand of test media are you using. I assume it's reusable. I'm not big on slugs but they are hard to argue with. Great job, thanks.

The test media is called The Bullet test tube. It's produced by a company called Ballistic technology.

http://www.thebullettesttube.com/

It has it's good and bad qualities. The good is that it's reusable and does a pretty good job of showing a permanent cavity.

The bad is that it's messy, leaving a sticky residue on everything it contacts. Also, splitting the tubes is very difficult.

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:27 pm

Idiot wrote:
Keep your eyes peeled, I expect Buffalo Bore to release a slug that is heavier and goes faster than the Black Magic Magnum. I don't know when it will come out, but I anxiously await.

that will be cool. Maybe it will consist of a harder alloy than most slugs seem to be made of. If those lightfields had been hardcast, I don't think they would have stopped in the test block.

Idiot · Post by **Idiot** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:32 pm

Jason_W wrote:
Idiot wrote:
Keep your eyes peeled, I expect Buffalo Bore to release a slug that is heavier and goes faster than the Black Magic Magnum. I don't know when it will come out, but I anxiously await.

that will be cool. Maybe it will consist of a harder alloy than most slugs seem to be made of. If those lightfields had been hardcast, I don't think they would have stopped in the test block.

I couldn't stop the Black Magic slug with two truck doors, on steel bar, and a 3/4" piece of plywood. I think could have penetrated six inches of cottonwood stump.

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:34 pm

Jason. Cool tests thanks! Have you ever tried the Brenneke Green Lightnings or their Red Special Forces slugs?

RKrodle · Post by **RKrodle** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:59 pm

If you want something in a slug that is hard check these out.
http://www.dixieslugs.com/

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:31 pm

madman4570 wrote:Jason. Cool tests thanks! Have you ever tried the Brenneke Green Lightnings or their Red Special Forces slugs?

Not yet, but I'll put them on the list. I'll try to pick up a box or two the next time I'm near a Cabelas.

I'm hoping I can get my home assembled sabot rounds to work. I tried the first batch today and they were all over the place. I'm having trouble crimping them evenly and I think that may be part of the problem.

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:32 pm

My slug of choice for the past couple of yrs.
These things are Devastating

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:30 pm

Jason_W wrote:Sorry if I'm getting annoying with posting my test results.

Gun-related 'test' posts are always welcome - they 'balance' all my 'OT' posts...

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:34 pm

Jason, I know you are really putting in some hard effort on these tests and I find them very interesting! Your doing one heck of a job! Thanks again!

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:47 pm

I'm curious about the pressure of the 12 Ga Lightfield Commander IDS Plus 3.5" 1-3/8 oz load. Is it not a little much for a standard shotgun (I use a Savage double).

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:55 pm

20cows wrote:I'm curious about the pressure of the 12 Ga Lightfield Commander IDS Plus 3.5" 1-3/8 oz load. Is it not a little much for a standard shotgun (I use a Savage double).

the box just says for use in modern firearms in good working condition. They are intended for rifled barrels or at least rifled choke tubes. Does your savage have a 3.5" chamber?

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:57 pm

madman4570 wrote:Jason, I know you are really putting in some hard effort on these tests and I find them very interesting! Your doing one heck of a job! Thanks again!

Thanks. glad you find it interesting.

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:06 pm

No, it predates the 3 1/2" shells.

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:09 pm

20cows wrote:No, it predates the 3 1/2" shells.

Probably wouldn't be a good choice. I don't think I'll use them again unless I get a tag for something really big.

pshort · Post by **pshort** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:23 pm

Howdy,
I enjoyed reading about your testing...
I recently fired a box (5) of the Lightfield 3.5 600gr 12 ga Mag in my Mossy 835 as well. I've never experienced recoil like that! One of those went thru a railroad tie and I dug it out of the bank behind it..
I have another box(5). Lifetime supply!!!!!!

Thanks for posting your tests,

Paul

dbateman · Post by **dbateman** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:43 pm

no i like reading your test's any one who dosent like them dosent have to look at them

Idiot · Post by **Idiot** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:55 am

20cows wrote:I'm curious about the pressure of the 12 Ga Lightfield Commander IDS Plus 3.5" 1-3/8 oz load. Is it not a little much for a standard shotgun (I use a Savage double).

Be careful. I bulged the barrels on my once very nice little Savage 20 Ga. double puting slugs through it. The barrels on the doubles are kind of thin.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:25 pm

Thanks for the testing, however one of my favourite slugs is a 690 ball in a plas wad . A 1 1/4oz ball is very good indeed

Roll crimping seems to get more steam up but a star is fine and certain wads seem better than others.

It is possible to get to much obturation with pure lead so an alloy may be needed or just slow it enough, it will get the job done.

Nath.

GoatGuy · Post by **GoatGuy** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:38 pm

Fine tests, Jason. Keep 'em coming, ... that is if your shoulder holds up. I also like to shoot slugs from time to time, but cringe when I know I be trying them out on a target board first. Same cringe when patterning a "new, improved" turkey load out of my 3 1/2" chamber turkey gun 870!!! Maybe that why I've gone back to 2 3/4" magnum shells and gotten better at calling them in closer.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:03 pm

Jason_W wrote:Sorry if I'm getting annoying with posting my test results. I'm not trying to be self promotional, I just figure it might interest some of you.

Anyway, here are some 12 ga slug results

http://www.carbinecountry.com/Shotgun%2 ... Tests.html

don't be sorry about being helpful... it's germaine to me because I'm going to Alaska next week and I'll be packing 2-3/4" 12ga slugs in my jump-in-the-skiff bear gun. I figure it's about early 45/70 performance and like, what, .75 caliber?

Can't go wrong with the good old Mossy with the cyl bore 18-1/2" boat gun rig.

OK, it's because I'm flying and don't want to check luggage.

so thanks for the info..

Grizz

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