Have you guys tried this? .44 Bullets from 40 S&W Cases

salvo · Post by **salvo** » Sun May 10, 2009 11:32 am

Check this link out over at Graybeards. Let me know what you think.
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/ ... 315.0.html

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Sun May 10, 2009 11:47 am

That's a great idea.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun May 10, 2009 1:05 pm

It looks like the .40 S&W case is only .424" at the base, so how does it engage the rifling...?

Still, in days like these when the guv wants to ban everything, it wouldn't hurt to have options for reloading.

Plus . . . I could use them in my .444 Marlin Thumper...!

salvo · Post by **salvo** » Sun May 10, 2009 1:11 pm

I measured a fired case, the body measured .430

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun May 10, 2009 1:24 pm

salvo wrote:I measured a fired case, the body measured .430

Ah-Ha - good point -a FIRED case is a bit bigger than the factory specs for unfired (duhhh...).
That would be the kind we'd be using!

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Sun May 10, 2009 1:42 pm

Hmmm...

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:17 pm

I'm thinking--------I'm gonna try that and report back tonight---------Sixgun

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Sun May 10, 2009 2:25 pm

And I just gave away all the .40 brass I had. Rats!

jb

Ray · Post by **Ray** » Sun May 10, 2009 4:21 pm

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salvo · Post by **salvo** » Sun May 10, 2009 4:44 pm

I also noticed that fired .45 ACP measures right at .475 perfect for my freedom Arms. Hate to waste .45 brass though.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sun May 10, 2009 6:09 pm

salvo wrote:I also noticed that fired .45 ACP measures right at .475 perfect for my freedom Arms. Hate to waste .45 brass though.

Hmmmm....I may have to try that in my 470NE. What if you had a nose pour mold and put an empty case inside the mold, then filled the whole thing. You'd end up with something like the old Speer half jackets. You'd have to cut the mold to fit the modified empty case of course.

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Sun May 10, 2009 7:01 pm

I wonder if .22LR could be used for .22H?

JustaJeepGuy · Post by **JustaJeepGuy** » Sun May 10, 2009 7:16 pm

I'm having a hard time with the idea of throwing away good brass, too. There was a time when .40 S&W was everywhere, but the brass vultures who sell it for scrap picked it all up.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sun May 10, 2009 8:49 pm

I had to go out to the shop and try to make a prototype/dummy bullet out of a 45 acp case for my 470NE. I trimmed .120" off the mouth, cut off the rim and had a nice jacket. If a guy had a mold cut that would hold the brass, I think you could drill out the flash hole larger to allow filling with molten lead. I do think you may run into venting problems though. Would probably have to be a nose pour mold.

As well as my gas check bullets shoot, I don't know why I'm bothering. Just kind of bored today I suppose.

SmokeEater2 · Post by **SmokeEater2** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:37 pm

awp101 wrote:I wonder if .22LR could be used for .22H?

Or .218 Bee? Hmmm..

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:55 pm

Hmmm... this is interesting. I am glad I picked up a lot of .40 S&W brass even before I had a gun that could fire the round. I agree though, I'd be hard pressed to ruin perfectly good brass doing this. Still, if push comes to shove, it is nice to have the option.

SmokeEater2 · Post by **SmokeEater2** » Sun May 10, 2009 10:44 pm

TedH wrote:I had to go out to the shop and try to make a prototype/dummy bullet out of a 45 acp case for my 470NE. I trimmed .120" off the mouth, cut off the rim and had a nice jacket. If a guy had a mold cut that would hold the brass, I think you could drill out the flash hole larger to allow filling with molten lead. I do think you may run into venting problems though. Would probably have to be a nose pour mold.

As well as my gas check bullets shoot, I don't know why I'm bothering. Just kind of bored today I suppose.

That's a couple of wicked looking bullets!

salvo · Post by **salvo** » Mon May 11, 2009 1:37 am

TedH, that is a mean looking bullet, let us know how it shoots! You took the idea to the next level!

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Mon May 11, 2009 7:12 am

The 45 ACP case works just fine in the 475 Linebaugh (and would work in the 480 Ruger also) ... I have shot lots of them. I tried them from velocities of 700 fps to up around 2000 fps from a 7 1/2" barrel Freedom Arms. (edit - in my 5 1/2" 475 Linebaugh I typically ran them 1700 - 1800 fps)

They have to be loaded into the cartridge BASE-First .. otherwise the primer blows out and leaves the projectile stuck in the bore. Trust me on this one.

Accuracy is decent... the above were shot at the steel chickens on the NRA Range at Whittington -- and they took the chickens down. The velocity on this load was 1800 fps.

I know of people getting 2100 fps from 7 1/2" revolvers but I never pushed any quite that far.

2X22 · Post by **2X22** » Mon May 11, 2009 8:55 am

JimT wrote:The 45 ACP case works just fine in the 475 Linebaugh (and would work in the 480 Ruger also) ... I have shot lots of them.

Yep. Don't I remember you shooting them at the sixgun shoot we had down in Oregon a few years back?

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JimT · Post by **JimT** » Mon May 11, 2009 8:59 am

2X22 wrote:
JimT wrote:The 45 ACP case works just fine in the 475 Linebaugh (and would work in the 480 Ruger also) ... I have shot lots of them.
Yep. Don't I remember you shooting them at the sixgun shoot we had down in Oregon a few years back?

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Yes .. we shot them through the chrono there for everyone and let folks try them for themselves.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:19 am

I think it would be hilarious to do - especially for carry ammo.

Can you imagine what the MSM/CSI would do with a recovered bullet that actually looked like a cartoon bullet (i.e. flying cartridge, rim & all...)???

It would blow their fuzzy little minds.

Anyway, see the Swaging Sub at Cast Boolits.

.357 from .223: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=49487

.357 from .380ACP: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=46953

.40S&W from 9mm: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=50635

.45-70 from .45ACP: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=45365

Part 2: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=51352

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:34 am

I can see it now, the coroner says, "He was shot with a .45 ACP."

"Are you sure?"

"Yep. Says right here on the base Cor-Bon 45 ACP"

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:55 am

The average American's (Idiotus Americanus) understanding of how bullets fly...

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:13 am

This is a great idea! Thanks for posting!

Anybody with reloading and casting equipment can make their own jacketed bullets.

I don't own a 40S&W but I don have several 44's! And as mentioned, there's scads of 40's laying around at the range.... ditto on 9mm - for 10mm.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 am

Do any match 308 ????

Nath.

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Mon May 11, 2009 3:48 pm

Nath wrote:Do any match 308 ????

Nath.

My buddy wants to know what can be used for .45ACP...

38 WCF · Post by **38 WCF** » Mon May 11, 2009 6:07 pm

I have some bullets for the old 41 Colt. They are a heel type bullet and are a bit smaller in diameter than a regular .40 bullet. They fit in a 40 S&W just fine when pushed all the way down, but with a bit of air space between the bottom of the bullet and the base of the .40 case. A small bit of lead is still exposed and if I could figure out how to roll over the mouth I think it would work. Any thoughts.?

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