Steve McQueen, hope this works

[draperjojo]

[rjohns94]

how many rounds of 30-30 would that hold

[mescalero1]

two

[RIHMFIRE]

12 ...just like the riflemans

[AJMD429]

Is that photo from a movie? If so, what one?

[Lastmohecken]

It's a 92 and will probably hold 6 or so. This is pure Hollywood as far as gun rigs go. He has a 92 which is probably chambered for 44/40 or something close, but he probably has 45/70 rounds in is gun belt. All show, still I enjoyed watching it, at least he has a decent set of spurs.

[Tennessee Hayre]

That photo is giving me an ideal on what to do with my 30-30???

[pokey]

those ain't spurs, these are spurs.

[J Miller]

how many rounds of 30-30 would that hold

None. Wrong Winchester. It might hold a half dozen .44-40s though.

That 's a neat picture. All dressed up in outfit tinkering with a Jaguar.

Joe

[Lastmohecken]

those ain't spurs, these are spurs.

Yes, those are fancy spurs. Which reminds me with all of cowboy shooting, these days, I missed wonderful chance to own some real old west spurs, when I was a kid. My grandfather run an antique shop and purchased a bunch of old spurs that came off of a ranch somewhere. These things were masive, with huge spiked rowels. And I wanted a set, but my dad told me, I didn't need them for my horse, and wouldn't let me buy them. They were only about ten dollars a pair. There is no telling how much they would bring today, but back then they were just considered old junk spurs that weren't practical for anything.

If I could have only bought those spurs and maybe $10,000 dollars worth of Walmart stock back around 1970, Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk.

[kimwcook]

Hey, Pokey. Tell us about those spurs.

[pokey]

the spurs aren't mine, made by the fella here...
http://www.tapsbitandspurshop.com/bio.htm
fellow alumni at miller bit and spur school i attended in the early eighties
when elmer was still around, hope to make a little extra $$$ when i retire.
more like machine shop work than cowboyin'.

[jd45]

He ain't costumed up for a movie, but his character Josh Randall in the TV series "Wanted, Dead or Alive". jd45

[rangerider7]

Lastmohecken, if the spurs your talking about were all large with big spoke rowels they were probably old Mexican spurs. Very few of them bring much today even if they are old. I just thought it might make you feel better. I have collected spurs for over 40 years and only a few old Mexican spurmaker's spurs demand a high price today. The ones Steve has on in the photo wouldn't bring much, except that since they belonged to him, a lot more than their worth. IMHO

[Gun Smith]

I'll go a little farther in identifing the car. I think it is a "C" Jag.
The M. 92 used in the series would have been registered with the ATF as a rifle with a barrel less than 18". A lot of real movie guns were illegal and probably had to be registered back then. I think now days a lot of these "new" weapons are props that are not capable of firing live ammo.
I met Steve McQueen at a SCCA road racing event at Holtville, Calif. around 70-72? He had one of the camera cars for the movie "Le Mans" there. I could be wrong, but I think it was a Porsche 917, but I'm not sure. We talked briefly and he did not have that "star" personna a lot of stars have when meeting "civilians".
He loved motorcycles and old cars. He had his two children with him that weekend. His son's name was Chad, I don't remember the daughter's name. I believe she has since passed away.

[marlinman93]

Looks like he's working on his car during a break in filming his TV series. Is that a Jaguar Lemans version? Looks like one of the XKE Jags used in racing.

[flatnose]

The car in the pic, was mcQueen's pride and joy.
It is an XKSS, which was a limited production, more rfined for road use version of the d-type jaguar. It fit in between the c-type and the e-type(xke). From memory, I think it is a 1957. Bumpers, windshield, an soft top, and possibly a heater was added to the d-type to make this variant. The d's did win Le Mans, as did the c's, with many other records set at the time, and some are still held today. Top speed on the d's were between 175 and 195mph, depending on diff ratios. Still a fast car by todays standards. Engine was a 3 litre all alloy dohc unit, much the same as all the jag motors from 1949 to 1986. They were fitted with close ratio gearboxes, and were either fuel injected or ran 3 weber twin chockes. All alloy body, with reynolds tube lightweight fron frames. I am not sure, but I think the car came in under 2000lbs. The e-type was built in practically the same way as the D, but used an iron block at 3.8 litre with triple su carbs, and had an independant rear end instead of the live rearend of the D. Incedentally, the D did not have a powerlock diff, but was cleverly set up to transmit equal power to both rear wheels in a straight line, but allowed the inside wheel to spin up in a corner in the wet.
Look up the cars on you tube. Jaguars built fantastic cars, and my fav is the xj13. Look it up on you tube as well. Probably the best looking car ever built.
I restore cars for a living, and have done so for the past 30+ years, and most have been jaguars. xk120's, xk140'x xk150's, and the whole range of E-types.
I dont know what happened to steve's jag. I think it is in a museum. That would be one car I would never sell or part with. Ever.

[silverbuzzard]

That guy was a class act
Read an article that after all the trouble he had he died with an open bible in his lap and a smile

[JustaJeepGuy]

And he was only 50 years old. Sad, huh?

Oh, and:

"Top speed on the d's were between 175 and 195mph, depending on diff ratios. Still a fast car by todays standards." That's plenty fast for me!

[alnitak]

As others have said, the Mare's Leg was chambered for .44-40 and held six. And yes, for the show, they displayed larger cartridges in the gun belt than what the pistol/rifle held to make it seem more impressive.

"For filming three guns were actually made, each with an enlarged loop on the cocking lever. The first gun differed in the size of its lever enlargement, and the last gun had an octagonal barrel instead of a round one. The actual gun being used could sometimes change from shot to shot in a given scene. While the guns were chambered for the .44-40 round, McQueen wore more impressive looking .45-70 rounds in the loops of his gun belt."

http://maresleg.com/article.htm

http://maresleg.com/maresleg.htm

[Lastmohecken]

Lastmohecken, if the spurs your talking about were all large with big spoke rowels they were probably old Mexican spurs. Very few of them bring much today even if they are old. I just thought it might make you feel better. I have collected spurs for over 40 years and only a few old Mexican spurmaker's spurs demand a high price today. The ones Steve has on in the photo wouldn't bring much, except that since they belonged to him, a lot more than their worth. IMHO

You may be right, as to the value, I still wish I had bought a pair. They were the big Mexican spurs and had basically no finish left on them if they ever had a finish. Do you have any pictures of simular spurs?

[rangerider7]

This is an example of the common type seen most often. This particular pair have lost their buttons. They would bring around 25 to 50 dollars. IMHO

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

There were two 92's used by Steve Mc Queen in Bounty Hunter series, both 44-40's so they would work with the 5 in 1 blanks. The first one was a round barrel with the big "D" shaped lever.



I was told by Mo Hunt that this gun came under scrutiny from the ATF because it wasn't papered as per GCA 68. He didn't say what the outcome was, only that there was a second gun made. It has made from an octagon barrel rifle with barrel bands added to adapt the carbine forewood and it used a pear shaped big loop.


That's the only two Steve McQueen Maresleg's I have ever heard of.

But, Mo did tell me that Chuck Conners used 3 different 92's for the Rifleman series. Two winchesters and an El Tigra. The El Tigra was used as a throw down gun when the scene called for it. After the series Conners had two more Wins made by Mo Hunt for personal appearances. These were 20" guns he could actually twirl both under his arms.

[Otto]

Given a gun that short, carrying six cartridges, and no sights as far as I can tell, wouldn't it make sense just to go with a cavalry-length Model P in the same chambering?

I realize this is a TV show, and that there is a great deal of theatrical flair involved in the creation of this gun.


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[FWiedner]

I'm pretty sure the Mare's Laig qualifies as a pistol. At least the current production ones do becuse they've never been rifles.

His was probably made before there were any of the current silly regulations against converting a rifle.

[jd45]

I remember seeing an episode of the series where he was hiding in a cabin waiting for the bad guy(s) to enter & he attempted to do a "rifleman" twirl with his Mare's Laig, flubbed it, & they left it in the scene. I can't imagine why, except to maybe discourage him from pulling ego-stunts like that in the future. It was definately NOT flattering to him. I liked him anyway, especially in "The Magnificent Seven". jd45

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

There were two 92's used by Steve Mc Queen in Bounty Hunter series, both 44-40's so they would work with the 5 in 1 blanks. The first one was a round barrel with the big "D" shaped lever.

I was told by Mo Hunt that this gun came under scrutiny from the ATF because it wasn't papered as per GCA 68. He didn't say what the outcome was, only that there was a second gun made. It has made from an octagon barrel rifle with barrel bands added to adapt the carbine forewood and it used a pear shaped big loop.


That's the only two Steve McQueen Maresleg's I have ever heard of.

But, Mo did tell me that Chuck Conners used 3 different 92's for the Rifleman series. Two winchesters and an El Tigra. The El Tigra was used as a throw down gun when the scene called for it. After the series Conners had two more Wins made by Mo Hunt for personal appearances. These were 20" guns he could actually twirl both under his arms.

I'm pretty sure the Mare's Laig qualifies as a pistol. At least the current production ones do becuse they've never been rifles.

His was probably made before there were any of the current silly regulations against converting a rifle.

I'm sorry my bad, The SBR rules go farther back. That should have been NFA of 1934. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Short barreled rifles (SBRs) - this category includes any weapon with a buttstock and either a rifled barrel under 16" long or an overall length under 26". The overall length is measured with any folding or collapsing stocks in the extended position. The category also includes weapons which came from the factory with a buttstock that was later removed by a third party.

Most of the current mareslegs are classed a handguns made from new recievers. In 1958 that was not an option but apparently they prop guys didn't know about the NFA rules when they made the first one.