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which of the leveractions in 44 mag would be considered the strongest. this is for a stiff load with 300 gr cast. No I do not have the load yet, but it will be a heavy 296 or 2400 charge. IT WILL BE OUT OF A MANUAL. not an I usta load this.

I already have a rossi puma and marlin 1894.

Any input or directions to find answer is appreciated.
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I've shot Garrett Hammerheads thru two different 1894s, and my own moderate heavy 300 hardcast .44s thru my 1894.....they work excellent. I think it's whatever shooter you like the best. IMO, you don't need to hot rod a .44mag 300 grain much to be very effective against whatever you are going to shoot :wink:
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Strength alone: No Question. Winchester model 1892 or Clone.

The Marlin 1894 square Bolt and Win 1894 aren't nearly as strong. Pure Physics/Mechanics.
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Old Ironsights wrote:Strength alone: No Question. Winchester model 1892 or Clone.

The Marlin 1894 square Bolt and Win 1894 aren't nearly as strong. Pure Physics/Mechanics.
Yer right, of course, I was going on the fact he was saying "out of the manual". Can't hurt a 1894 with any of those :wink: But, yeah.....the 92s are stronger.
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Regardless, you won't have any problems with either of your carbines - they will both handle those loads easily. You would have to push them well beyond any reasonable level to experience issues. But as said, the 94 would most likey fail before the 92 design.
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I would narrow it down to the Browning B-92. Not knocking any other 92, I would just trust the quality control of Miroku more than the others. I would/do certainly trust the quality control of the old Winchesters but I do not think the steel employed at that time is equally as strong as the more modern steel employed in the late 70s and 80s when the Browning guns were built. Regards, 1886.
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I like the Rossi a little better that the Marlin .

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Yep, Marlins will handle anything in the reloading manual, if your rifle feeds worth cussing.

But if you want to get adventurous with your handloads, you need a Winchester/Browning, or Rossi Model 92. The M-92, being nothing less than a Model 1886 scaled down to pistol cartridge size is much stronger than either the Marlin or Winchester Model 1894 actions.
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tn gun runner wrote:I like the Rossi a little better that the Marlin .

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If you want to 'hot load' a 44 Magnum, get an action that's about an inch longer, and step up to a 'real' gun - as in .444...!

If you want a "carbine" you may have to bob the barrel a bit, but if you want to spit a .430 bullet out REALLY fast, don't agonize over which .44 Magnum to get.
Get a .444 Marlin.. !.

My "hot" .44 Mag loads will actually damage the 100 yard gongs with a big dent vs. a medium dent for the 'normal' loads.

My .444 Marlin looks like someone took a paper-punch to them; hole clean through, no dent.

The action is a bit longer, but a 'guide gun' sized gun isn't hard to make, and isn't any heavier for an adult male to tote around than a .44 Mag, regardless lf manufacturer.

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Probably the B92.

Come to think of it though I have to go with the Doc.
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Why not step up to a .45-70 if you're interested in going hot?

300 grains is about the starting point there.
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Doc Hudson wrote:Yep, Marlins will handle anything in the reloading manual, if your rifle feeds worth cussing.

But if you want to get adventurous with your handloads, you need a Winchester/Browning, or Rossi Model 92. The M-92, being nothing less than a Model 1886 scaled down to pistol cartridge size is much stronger than either the Marlin or Winchester Model 1894 actions.
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