Another old photo, Texas Rangers +.

[rangerider7]

This is a photograph that is published but not seen much. It has Captain J.H. Rogers seated holding a Luger. That is a young Frank Hamer standing to the left. The other two rangers I'm not sure of their names at this time but have seen them published before. I thought y'all might want to see it. The bottom tintype is unidentified but neat.

[Chuck 100 yd]

COOL !! You must have a fine collection of those old photos.

[C. Cash]

I've always loved that photo with Hamer and the 94 Win...it is in "Guns and the Gunfighter" book published by Guns and Ammo back in the 70's. Another rifle held muzzle down! Great photos....
PS..is it possible that is John Slaughter in the bottom photo on Left?

[GEOFF]

Rangerider,

Thanks for posting more great pictures! I really enjoy them.

Will be interesting what the other guys can make out the details to be, like what carbines are those?? Like would you guess Hamer has .30WCF cartridges in his belt?? Looks to me like a 1894 Winchester.

Bottom picture, would you all guess Colt SAA on the left and a S&W on the right??

Wonder what the Captain REALLY thought of that NEW FANGLED GERMAN GUN!!!!!!!

Photograph must be around 1910 don't you think??

Geoff

[kimwcook]

The guy in the bottom photo on the left really reminds me of Ben Foster playing Charlie Prince in 3:10 to Yuma. Even down to the facial hair.

[Sixgun]

Neat pics--the Luger is most likely an American Eagle, meant for sale here.---Big bucks----------I want it!!--------Sixgun

[Mike D.]

Those are interesting photos. The guns actually used on the frontier were many and varied, not everyone could afford a nice Colt, Marlin, or Winchester. I had one of those American Eagles at one time, a .30 Luger that was eventually traded for something a bit more interesting. I shot the hail out of that pistol and still got nearly $1500 in trade at the time.

[Borregos]

Interesting pictures, keep 'em coming

[rangerider7]

Hamer liked the 1894 SRC, but later own he fell in love with the Remington auto rifle, Model 8 I believe. There is a beautiful one of his that is engraved in the "TEXAS RANGER HALL OF FAME" in Waco, Texas. The photo below I bet has a real great story.

[Jaguarundi]

A picture says a thousand words(if not more).Thanks for post'n .

[KirkD]

the fellow on the left, in the lower photo is packing a S&W 1st or 2nd Model American. I have one of those. It's got an 8" barrel and I find it most comfortable to wear cross draw just like the fellow in the photo. The most likely caliber would have been 44 Russian or 44 American.

[J Miller]

Kirk, you sure that isn't the fellow on the right with the S&W American?

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Back to the first picture for a moment. Frank Hamer and the other Ranger on the right are wearing the same type of gun / cartridge belt. Does anybody have pictures of that type of belt? It looks like it would make a handy hunting rig for animals as well as criminals.

What strikes me the most about that pic is Frank Hamer's eyes. Even in this posed photo they tell the story. I don't know much about him, but just by the look in his eyes I'd not cross him on a dare.
I'll have to read up on him in my copy of "Guns and the Gunfighter" .

Joe

[bogus bill]

I once owned the book, "I am Frank Hammer". Those pictures were in the book. The small guy by hammer was his close friend and partner. Its been a long time but I belive his first name was Duke--? That was a heck of good book and I lost it. It was claimed hammer had been in about 50 shootouts and been shot something like 11 times. Once asked how many men he had killed, he would just say "I dont talk about them things". I belive his son was a pilot for the texas conservation dept. The book also had pictures and a detailed account of the hunt and capture of bonnie & clyde. Hammer was called out of retirement to hunt them down. He never met either untill the shoot out, but knew their familys. The movie stunk on that. It showed bonnie & clyde catching hammer, getting the drop on him and humuilateing him. Never happened! There also was another picture in the book of hammer and tom mix together.

[gamekeeper]

Interesting photo.
I bet the Texas dust played havoc with that new fangled Luger!

[rangerider7]

J Miller, those are money cartridge belts. There are many companies that make them such as: El Paso Saddlery, Classic Old West Styles, W.M. Brown, and Old West reproductions are a few. You can get them in almost any cartridge combination if you want a "scout" belt type. Wild Rose can make one any way you want it, but has a long waiting list.

[KirkD]

Kirk, you sure that isn't the fellow on the right with the S&W American?

By gum, Joe, you're right! Don't tell me I'm going dyslexic!

[airedaleman]

J Miller, those are money cartridge belts. There are many companies that make them such as: El Paso Saddlery, Classic Old West Styles, W.M. Brown, and Old West reproductions are a few. You can get them in almost any cartridge combination if you want a "scout" belt type. Wild Rose can make one any way you want it, but has a long waiting list.

RR7, am I correct in recalling that a lot of the original money belts, especially the really wide ones, were made of elk hide?
Years ago I had an old belt set up for 50 30-30 cartridges, and it was a supple as a pair of well-broken-in gloves.

[rangerider7]

All kinds of leather was used. Elk, pigskin, skirt leather etc. was used. Whatever the customer wanted if they could find a good supplier. This one was made of thick skirt leather.

[longarm4146]

rangerider, u post the most interesting stuff......i believe a trip to your ranch would be better than trips to many museums....keep up the good posting.....

[airedaleman]

All kinds of leather was used. Elk, pigskin, skirt leather etc. was used. Whatever the customer wanted if they could find a good supplier. This one was made of thick skirt leather.

Now that's what I call a cartridge belt! What caliber carrtridges are in it?

Ditto the museum comment...

[rangerider7]

38-40 and 30-40 Krag

[airedaleman]

38-40 and 30-40 Krag

Thanks. I was born about 75 years too late. Nothing glamorous about speed loaders, magazine pouches, and retention holsters...