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Whew....folks, the last few days have been rough but I finally got rid of a couple of those little buggers... :P I just thought I'd share since most folks will probably have some of these suckers in their lifetime. For those who haven't experience the fun of kidney stones, you might think that passing a benign little stone would be easy. I swear, I felt the recoil when these buggers went off. Well, I took a few snapshots under a microscope today and thought I'd share. I had a "Big" one and a "Little" one. I put a #10-24 set screw in the photo for size comparison.

This is the Big one magnified 10x

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Big one magnified 200x :shock:

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This is the Little one magnified 10x

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Little one magnified 60x
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I've seen Great White shark teeth that weren't as scary looking. Once magnified, those babies are sharp. Drinking tons of water helps greatly.

I just thought I'd share for those interested.
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SHARP little things, aren't they...

Patients I've had who've dealt with surgery, broken hips, and childbirth without a hitch, all say passing a stone is the worst thing they've ever had pain-wise.
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I've heard it said that passing a kidney stone is as painful as child birth. I can't confirm the child birth pain, but I've had kidney stones. And large quantities or morphine wont do it for the pain.

As for passing one, I don't know. My right kidney was completely blocked and non functional. I was in agony. When they put me on a special x-ray table and pumped me full of a chemical to see where the blockage was they verified the blocked kidney.

They decided to do it again because the pics weren't good enough and right in the middle of it the blockage dislodged and the relief was tremendous. Don't know if the stone disintegrated, or if it's still in there.

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I have had kidney stones twice so I can relate to your story. The first time was the worst because to second time you go to the emergency room with a stone you demand morphine, Demeral and EVERYTHING else they have in their medicine cabinet RIGHT NOW! A nurse told me she had had two kids and one stone. She said the kid's births were a walk in the park compared to passing the one stone.
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deerwhacker444 wrote:Whew....folks, the last few days have been rough but I finally got rid of a couple of those little buggers... :P I just thought I'd share since most folks will probably have some of these suckers in their lifetime.
Great, another age appropriate milestone to look forward to! :lol:
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my mom suffers from these and a good friend is going through this now. I am glad you are feeling relief. Sorry you had to go through this.
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Grizzly Adams wrote:
Great, another age appropriate milestone to look forward to! :lol:
I'm 35 now, had my first bout with them at 27. If you're older than I, count your blessings that you haven't had to deal with them yet. They're really not that bad unless they block off the kidney, that's the only time I've cried in a Hospital. Otherwise, it feels like you've been kicked in the "grapes" a dozen times a day... :shock: :lol: :lol: Painful, but doable.
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My doc told me when it was over that I now knew what my wife went through giving birth! :wink:
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I had two rounds with those boggers since Thanksgiving. Nothing near as large as those shown. The only things to do is drink all the water you can hold and take all of the dop you can get your hands on. The whole experience is unto peeing a grass burr.
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It is the greatest pain I've known...and nearly cried for my mommy. :wink:

Thanks for the reminder....I'm off to drink a gallon or two of water.

For what its worth...my Dr. mentioned that drinking water spiked with a bit of lemon-juice prevents formation.
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Dropped me to the floor. Didn't know whether to puke or pass out. Drink lots of water. Keep things flushed out. If you pass one once, you'll never want to do it again.
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I had one about six years ago, it started at 0430 as an intermittent ache on my side -- then my lower back -- then my side -- then my lower back . . .

Went to work and by 0800 I was having sweaty waves of agony punctuated by chills and blessed intervals of comparative pain-free existance. Then I got hit with a bout of nausea and after losing breakfast and 20 oz of coffee the pain QUIT, right NOW, period, paragraph.

I had called the Dr at 0800 and went to the appt at 1600 as schedule. Peed through a strainer for two weeks, nothing. Must have come out already.

Nope.

Two years hence and four years ago I was at a client's plant just finishing up a software dump and took the second leak of the day. Standing there, no problem, then a sudden SURGE of flow followed by a SHARP pain from my "male appendage" and the flow turned red, and the commode looked as if two units of whole blood was poured in. I stuffed some paper towels down the front of my skivvies, exited the men's room and went and finished up my work and bid my good-byes, see ya laters, and thanks for your bidness, etc.

I was six hrs from home, so I stopped for fuel and bought a small box of sanitary pads and exchanged the now-quite-bloody paper toweling for a Kotex. Those things REALLY WORK. They can absorb a couple hundred times their volume of liquid, let me tell ya . . .

So about 3/4 home I have to pee and HOLY CATS that is something I don't want to do again. I quickly figured out that by "pinching the pickle" at the right place next to my abdomen I could regulate the flow of mostly blood with some urine such that I wouldn't scream. After getting home I checked into the ER and a CT scan later the male NP pronounced that I had a 5mm x 8mm stone stuck in my urethra, about 2" from daylight. "No kidding?" I said.

An appt was made for me to see the local urologist at 0900 the next AM who read the films and agreed with the diagnosis. He said he'd meet me in the Short Procedure (aptly named, given what part of me the urologist was concerned with) Unit at the hospital at 1400 that afternoon, and that I should report about 1230 to get ready.

After prepping and getting an IV with the "take it easy" juice, I was rolled into the OR where I made it as far as "vierundneunzig" backwards from "ein hundert" when they told me to count. Fifteen mins later I recall the head end of the gurney banging the OR doors open and being pushed into the recovery room where the nurses were surprised that I could tell them it was 13:50. Once back in the Short Procedure prep room, the urologist stopped in and said that I had a "purple spiney" stone that was indeedn 5mm x 8mm and "did a number" on my urethra that would take a couple weeks to heal over and the bleeding to stop.
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He said he went in with the scope three times, twice to break up the stone with the "crushing tool" :shock: and flush out the particles, and then once to peep around my bladder which was fine except for some scarring from abrasion against the stone. "Drink lots of water" was his only instruction. Little brown M&M pills that dyed my urine and skivvies a bright yellow-orange helped the healing process and killed any pain. It was weird peeing big blood clots and stuff for a few days, but that stopped in time.

Yep, too much information, but I remember it like it was yesterday . . .

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Maybe the Lord will continue to spare me this trauma.



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Wow, those are some nasty looking little buggers! I've never had the pleasure, and I sure hope I never do!
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I have sporadic bouts with the little buggers for most of my adult life. I'll be doing fine and wham! It feels like someone just took a knife and stuck it in my kidney. It'll mess with me for a couple of days and then, gone. I haven't had one stick for any real length of time, thank God. I feel for those that have.
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I had one when I was about 20. I had to be taken to the hospital via ambulance as the pain was so bad I couldn't breath.

Jr. is having problems with them now.
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Tycer wrote:Somebody just disappeared. :o
I'll say - I don't know if he'll be coming back out anytime soon! :shock:

Uhhh... how di you embed those miniature shark's teeth in those suckers?!? :shock: :shock: :shock:
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My dad had kidney stones for years, hospitaized several times finally went to a homeopathic doctor who told him to take calcium pills( one a day) seems that if your body is lacking it draws calcium from your bones and deposits the leftover in your kidneys he hasnt had a problem in 20 years. There's also a product called Chanca Piedra the name means stone breaker it breaks down kidney & gall stones you can find it at healthfood outlets, I take both. danny
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Man Alive, Those look horrible. I have never had a problem, but I am going to be drinking water all day for certain.
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J Miller wrote:I've heard it said that passing a kidney stone is as painful as child birth. I can't confirm the child birth pain, but I've had kidney stones. And large quantities or morphine wont do it for the pain. ...Joe
According to a woman who has had both...

More painful than childbirth.

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Yeeeoowwwwch!!!

Man those look PAINFUL!

Sorry you had to go through that Andrew.
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