Another Question on bullet lubing

[Otto]

I hope these aren't stupid questions. I want to start casting in the near future.

Is this guy making this harder than it should be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eo21iQl05k

Why can't he just set a whole bunch of bullets on top of the lube, and then heat? For that matter, why did he have to melt the lube into the pan first?

Does he really need the cartridge case to cut the bullets out? I thought one could just sort of twist them out by hand. Maybe the lube won't stay in the groove if that is done.

[Don McDowell]

It's easier to melt your lube using a double boiler method (put the lube in a soup can, and put that can in a pan of boiling water) and then pour the lube into the cake/pie pan holding all the bullets stood upright until the level of the lube is where you want it.
Then go off and forget about it for awhile, then when the lube has completely set up push the bullets out, or use a cake cutter made from a cartridge case , piece of copper tubing etc.

[TX Gun Runner]

It's easier to melt your lube using a double boiler method (put the lube in a soup can, and put that can in a pan of boiling water) and then pour the lube into the cake/pie pan holding all the bullets stood upright until the level of the lube is where you want it.
Then go off and forget about it for awhile, then when the lube has completely set up push the bullets out, or use a cake cutter made from a cartridge case , piece of copper tubing etc.

That guy on you tube someone to show him how to do it . I do it the same way you do it DON .

[Otto]

More like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prD0pW8s7-c&NR=1

[TX Gun Runner]

Yes .. that done the correct way .

[Charles]

I have always placed the bullets in a pan and poured the lube around them, but his way seems to work as well. I can see some potential problems, if you just set the bullet on top of hard lube and melted the lube under them. The lube would melt at different rates and there would be a strong possibility of the bullets tiping over into the lube.

[Otto]

Is there an advantage, in terms of results, of pan-lubing over using a luber-sizer, or vice-versa? Are pan-lubed bullets sized separately, or shot as cast?

[Tycer]

Is there an advantage, in terms of results, of pan-lubing over using a luber-sizer, or vice-versa? Are pan-lubed bullets sized separately, or shot as cast?

Lubesizers just combine two tasks into one, less-messy task.
If you can get a mold that casts .002" larger than your bore, there's no need to size them.
If you do decide to or need to size bullets and you water quench, size them as soon as possible because after they harden ( happens pretty quick the first 2 weeks), sizing hardened bullets softens the alloy.

[mikld]

Seems to me he has added some unnecessary steps. My panlubing is pretty simple. I set ther bullets on their base in a cake pan. I pour melted lube to just over the lube groove. I then put it in the oven @ 175 - 200 digrees for 15 to 20 minutes. This gets the bullets and the lube the same temp and the lube will stick better. After they cool, I then punch them out by hand or use a "cutter" (a piece of stainless tubing reamed to .435" or so and tapered on one end). For the next batch, I just place fresh bullets in the holes and put it in the oven to warm everything. I can either run them through my Lee sizer or some I just shoot as is. Simple, not too messy (depending on how soft my lube is), and a no-brainer...

[Chuck 100 yd]

I do the same as the second example. I have small shallow stainless steel dishes with tapered sides. set the bullets on their bases,melt the lube,pour untill the lube groove is covered,allow to cool. I put them in the freezer for 1/2 hr. the lube shrinks away from the dish just a little. Pop the cake of lube with bullets out of the pan and just push the bullets out with your thumb on the bullets nose.
Run them through a Lee sizer if need be.
Works great with SPG lube. No need to change from alox to SPG when shooting Black Powder. Everything else gets 50/50 Alox.

[Thunder50]

And if you are shooting smokeless, instead of Black powder, you could just use the Lee tumble lube.

[Fairshake]

Goatlips has a good demo on the correct way to pan lube thats on thne web. It's also a sticky on the Cast Boolits site of which I'm a member. Go by Cajun Shooter over there though. Check it out