Holster tutorial, Part3

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Holster tutorial, Part3

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Here we go, part 3. Everyone got their popcorn?

In one of the previous posts I said I'd get a picture of the groover I use. Here it is. There's a small hole in the rod with the 90 degree bend. That's what does the cutting. The string like thing in the picture is the piece that gets cut out.
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There was also talk about folding the rear portion of the holster half down to make the belt loop. Here's one I did that with, but it's a straight hang style. Front view.
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Back view.
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Shot of the belt loop from the top.
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Okay here we go with tonights installment.

Here's the dried cut out that I wet and stamped last night. I have a forced air HVAC system so it's real convenient to place my went projects on top of a register and it dries it fairly quickly without a bunch of heat. Heat is a bad no, no. You want it to dry slow and controlled.
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Here's the belt loop. I used the pattern I made, just like the holster and did the same thing, trace and cut.
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Next, I edge the belt loop with an edger. This one is a number 3. The lower the number the smaller, vice versa. Edgers are used to give a round smooth edge to your edges (duh). You'll be edging both sides of the piece. Keep the edger sharp and at about a 45 degree angle to the edge your cutting. Go around the whole piece and then flip it over and do the same thing to the other side.
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Close up of the edging process.
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Once the piece is edged on both sides it's time to smooth it. Using some type of slicker. Here are the three I use. One can use gum tragacanth on the edge, but I find water works well for me. From the left, a 1" wooden dowel, a plastic slicker and a sambar stag roll.
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I take the piece I've edged and run a little water around the outside edge. Not to much, just enough to get it wet. And then I start running the dowel back and forth over the edge. This takes a little getting used to, but it's easy. It just takes a little practice.

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Holding the piece and running the dowel back and forth.
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A picture showing the holster edge which hasn't been edged or slicked yet and the belt loop which has.
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Now that the belt loop is edged and slicked it's time to locate where I want it on the back of the holster. I used a punch and punched four holes at the ends of my holster pattern where I'd made the lines to locate it earlier. I placed it on the holster and made four marks at the ends of the two lines.
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Then I laid the holster pattern back on the holster leather and made a mark at each of the four holes.
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I then laid the belt loop on the holster and drew a pencil line around the ends that are going to be glued and sewn to the holster.
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I use Barge cement and put some inside the area on the holster I drew with the pencil and on the back of the loop itself. Now, kind of important let the glue dry some, letting it dry longer is better than shorter.
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When the glue is dry I carefully place it inside the pencil sketch I've made of the loop on the holster and give it a little pressure to bond the two pieces together. Do this once because this stuff will almost literally pull the leather apart than separate at the seams. Then I use the groover and cut an edge for the seams like I did on the front of the holster already.
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Then using hole punches I punch the holes where the leather will go. Now if I had my shop I prefer to drill the marked holes, but since I don't I use the hammer punches shown here. There's different sizes and some use a marker and awl. I've never done it that way. Some day I'll have to do it and see if it's actually better or easier.
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Punching the holes. This again is something that isn't rocket science, because I can do it, but you'll get better the more you do it.
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That's all for tonight. I'd like to line the inside with some pigskin but I can't find it. I'll have to look a little harder as I'd really like the holster lined.
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It's lookin' pretty good there; good work, again.
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Really interesting, thanks again :D
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Nice pics.

I burnish the edges after I sew my holster completely together - using a smooth, hard tool similar to those you pictured, and raw egg white.
Don't use too much pressure when burnishing, or you'll roll the edge of the leather, causing a high rim around the edges.

BTW - After sewing any two edges together, if they don't come out exactly even (like maybe you had a few beers B 4 cutting the line) - smooth/even them up via sandpapering, before burnishing.

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As a general rule I leave my edges just a little proud as I can never seem to get them to line up perfectly. So after I sew the edges together I take a small cutting to give it a nice straight parallel ending before I use the edger.

Once I get my shop set up I'll probably burnish my edges using a felt buffer and some type of edging compound alloyed with beeswax. I just don't get that professional edge, like John Bianchi, doing it by hand. It's close, but not the same.

When I did have access to my last shop, I'd use my 2"X72" belt grinder with a fresh 60 grit belt to even the edges up. That went real fast, but you have to be careful as the belt will load up with leather and start burning the edge. Smells awful too.
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An overstitch wheel to mark with, and an awl to poke holes with and a llooonggg ( at least 6 - 10 ft ) waxed linen or poly thread ( 4- or 6-cord ) with a needle at each end will give you the best, tightest, prettiest stitches.

80 grit belt on a sander to even the edged; 120 grit to smooth, then edge again and use Gum Tragacanth and a good, grooved slicker to burnish the edges. The gum gives a more durable edge finish than plain water. Some use glycerine soap and a piece of rough canvas to burnish...

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You make me wish I'd bought my dad's leatherworking stuff. Mike bought it but I'm sure his widow moved it on, one way or another, soon after he died.
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can anyone share any URLs for buying leather craft tools and supplies?

thanks

finally, something else I can screw up in my own style :lol:
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Grizz,

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com

Almost all of the other companies' merchandise is exactly the same as Tandy's stuff. I mean mainly tools, like stamps, conchos, edging, etc., are the same as Tandy's.

Unless you are working with upholstery, you will want to buy "vegetable-tanned" leather. Holsters are usually made from 8-to-9-ounce leather. Thicker leather can be used, but it will be a chore to handle. Saddle skirting is tough. It is good for scabbards, in the 13-to-15-ounce range, but it will easily dull you knife, as you cut it. :wink:

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With all the talent on this forum I don't know why I'm the one doing the tutorial. Pete44ru, Hagler, Buck Elliot, geez. I'm feeling some pressure.

We could have more than one ya know.
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I reckon you are the one that took the time to do it for us, thanks.
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I have several books on leather work. Pattern making is just shown almost the same as you did . I see some of your bought tools are extra quality ones. they aren't cheap , but like anything else you get what you pay for. But you'll find that some home made ones will fit your needs just right also. I have made several western holsters for friends as well as my wife & myself. Plus the advise you have given is right on .
I too like Tandy for most of my needs . They even have things to know sometimes on the edges of their catalog . Their sales rags are good savings too.
I have never considered going into business though, not good enough . Ol' Ridis brothers keep my hands from doing much now a-days . But it's fun to do.
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Thanks everybody for your encouraging words. This tutorial is just a quick sight into my way of making a holster. It isn't the only way, or maybe not the right way, just my way. I've purposely left out a lot of the alternate ways of doing things because I didn't want it to turn into a long drawn out affair. Just a quick insight into making a holster.

That being said, I'd like to see some of the other guys' work. I love looking at leather, anybody's leather. I learn a lot that way. And, it sounds like there's a lot of experience far beyond mine making a holster. Personally, I'd love to see it and learn something.
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kimwcook,
This is one of the most interesting and informative posts I've ever seen on this forum! I can't thank you enough for taking the time to educate and entertain us with such a fine tutorial!-Vall
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What marlinman93 said +1 :D Thanks!!
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With all the talent on this forum I don't know why I'm the one doing the tutorial.
Keep going, it's good!
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I think 20cows has talked some about a single or double loop holster. I would like to try one for my old Colt.45 SAA.
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kimwcook, I think you're doing great! Like you said, there's more than one way to do things. I can take what you've shown once I get started and see how it works for me!Image

Now then, how would this work rather than the hole punches you picture?
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I already have one of thse but haven't used it yet.

Also other than the amount of adjustment between the two, do you know if there's a difference between the Craftool E-Z Adjust Stitching Groover http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/prod ... er=8069-00 and the Craftool Adjustable Groover http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/prod ... er=8074-00 ?
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awp101 - You might want to follow the K.I.S.S. principle, at least at first.
You could simply use a ruler or tape measure to lay out a line of penciled dots about 1/8" or so apart, then lay the leather (finished side up) on a wooden block and hammer-punch the holes (on the dots) with a 1/16" tip, square-shouldered drift pin. The waxed thread, referred to above, will slide right on thru.

kimwcook - I, too, think it's wonderful of you to take the time for the photography - and the pics are waaaaay out of my league, that's fer sure !

Thanks, for a great job ! I just hope ya don't mind me tossin' in $0.02 , every now & then.

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Pete44ru wrote:awp101 - You might want to follow the K.I.S.S. principle, at least at first.
You could simply use a ruler or tape measure to lay out a line of penciled dots about 1/8" or so apart, then lay the leather (finished side up) on a wooden block and hammer-punch the holes (on the dots) with a 1/16" tip, square-shouldered drift pin. The waxed thread, referred to above, will slide right on thru.
True, but I already have the rolly thingy... :lol: Bought some more tooling a couple of weekends ago when I decided to make the pouch for Dad's multi-tool.

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Awp101, the overstitch wheel you have is what's used for marking the leather when one uses an awl. I've got a couple of awls, but again, it's something I've never used or shown how. I know the principal, just haven't done it.
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Thanks, I guess I should look at a set of those as well. It's for the children... :lol:
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