OT: Voting Day Range Report-Now w/ Pics

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OT: Voting Day Range Report-Now w/ Pics

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Buffalo Bros John Wayne Grips:

Last September I bought an XR3 grip frame for a future Ruger SA project. On it came a set of John Wayne grips from Buffalo Brothers.
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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10202&hilit=Need+gr ... al+ID+help.

I tried them on all of my OM Rugers but they felt best on the short barreled .357.
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Today I had a chance to shoot with them. I like 'em! Although they could be contoured a bit better they felt really nice to shoot with. I was shooting full house .357 loads and there was no problems at all.
I think, more shooting will verify it, that they actually helped me control the pistol during recoil and afterwords.

The front sight on this Ruger is twisted on the barrel, and tilted. A factory defect. I was able to shoot a couple groups using my diopter attachment and with the rear sight centered it's shooting about 1.5" to the right. And about 3" above point of aim.
I've got a replacement front sight, I just need someone who's good with a torch to put it on. Heck, I just might try it myself. I couldn't screw it up any worse than the last two gun butchers did my Marlin. :x

Ruger Super Single-Six:

My OM Super Single-Six LR cylinder has six chambers. And each one is a different diameter. This can't be good for accuracy. They range from .2255" to .2265". Just for the sake of accuracy, I'm going to send the cylinder off to Gatguns in Tennessee. He has the equipment to ream them all to the same size.
Now, why am I going to do this. Because it might just help the accuracy of my pistola.
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So at 25 yards I shot 10 groups with 5 different kinds of ammo.
The targets are pretty big and I hope the pics are clear enough. Each blue bullseye is 3-1/16" diameter.
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The best groups were with Winchester Super-X LR HV ammo. 2-1/4" and 2-9/16".
Then in no particular order:
Aguila Super Extra SV LR. 2-5/16" and 2-1/2".
Federal Bulk LR 36gr HP. 2-7/8" and 3-1/4".
Federal Bulk Auto Match LR SV. 3-1/4" and 2-7/16"

The worst groups were with some of the black steel cased Russian SV ammo. 4-1/8" and 3-11/16".

What was consistent amongst all the groups is 3 to 4 shots centered in the group with 2 to 3 fliers. Each and every target was like that.

So I suppose it would be OK to conclude that the variation in chamber dimensions are affecting this revolvers ability to group.
I've already cleaned the cylinder, packed it and shipped it off to the gunsmith.
Now when It comes back I'll duplicate this test and report my findings.

The biggest problem though is the arthritic shooter with the pinched nerve in his neck trying to hold the pistola steady while his right side trembles and his fingers are going numb.


Ruger OM BH .45 Colt:

Ahhh, my always gun.
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Pretty much just finished off some odds and ends in my ammo bucket today. I did find a potential load that I would explore more if I had any more 800X. It was XX.Xgrs under a Black River 265gr KSWC. Not sure where I got the data from. I'll have to double check it before I mention what the charge is. Not sure what the start load or max load was but this one was marked on the data sheet as a +P load and it felt like it. But it was quite accurate from my Ruger. I hope I wrote down where I got the data from in my master notes, I gotta consider this one.


Marlin 1894 Cowboy:

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Finished off a box of BB SWCs loaded over AA 5744. The accuracy with this powder is very good. Too bad it leaves behind so much unburned powder. It's miserable to clean out of the rifle.

I also tried some 300 gr TCFPs made by Lasercast. I loaded them over the max charge of 2400 as listed in Hodgdon's #26 manual. It's a stomper at 30K CUP. But from the Marlin it felt about like a normal 30-30 load from a Win 94. Not bad at all. I saved 20 of them to try at 100 yds. Assuming I can see the target at that range. Maybe if I do a Clint Eastwood squint :wink:


I had a great day shooting. Only the third time out this year. I got to get more practicing in before February, that's for darn sure.

Joe
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Joe,
How did you go about measuring all of the charge holes in the cylinder?
If you get them reamed to uniform size, will you use an accurizer cut to that size?
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I really like this tradition of yours Joe. I just hope we all can do this after the next 4 years!!!
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Joe won't be able to do it next time , unless he moves!
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mescalero1 wrote:Joe,
How did you go about measuring all of the charge holes in the cylinder?
If you get them reamed to uniform size, will you use an accurizer cut to that size?
mscalero,
I took apart a Winchester 3" mag #4 buckshot round and used the shot as a slug. Might not be perfect for the job, but it was all I had. And it did verify what my cleaning rods been telling me all these years.
I have an order form all printed out for one of Paco's accurizers.

Ysabel Kid,

Me too.

mescalero,
Why not? What's gonna change here in 4 years?

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Joe, a very nice report! I wish you had some pics though! I'm looking forward to the fruits of your research with the cylinder uniforming, but I suspect it will make a noticable difference. It sure did for my Ruger Bisley in 45 Colt.

Keep shooting!

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Yep, I agree a very nice report Joe, might have to follow your lead 4 years from now.
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Tutt,

I did take my camera with me, but since I was alone it was sorta hard to keep track of everything. Range bag, guns, ammo, ears, eyes, rifle, so I just left it in the truck.
If my wife and I go together she usually gets the job of running the camera.
I've got to clean the cylinder, then pack it up and ship it out. Hopefully it will make a difference. It doesn't group terribly bad, but I think it can do better. We'll sure see.

Scott,
You don't have to wait four years. You can do this in two years when the mid term elections come up.

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I'll do that Joe. even if it ain't legal.
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salvo wrote:I'll do that Joe. even if it ain't legal.
Why ain't it legal?

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I shot yesterday and my shooting was with the same success as my voting - I blame it on the wind -

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:lol: Same here.
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Yeah, wind caused by all the hot air being expelled by the sheeple that seem to have had a population explosion.

OH, I added pics to my first post, ^^^^^ :D

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Love those Grips Joe. They look just like the ones on John Waynes SAA/Bisley with the finger grooves. I'm gonna see what I can do to get some American Holly for my SBH.
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BOUT TIME JOE
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LeverBob wrote:BOUT TIME JOE
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Me thinks this may be my inauguration-day routine - at least for this one!!! :D
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Ysabel Kid wrote:Me thinks this may be my inauguration-day routine - at least for this one!!! :D
That's not a bad idea. And I do need all the practice I can get for the next Texas Safari. So any excuse to go to the range will work. :)

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