OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here ... politely.

Moderators: AmBraCol, Hobie

Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Post Reply
4t5
Senior Levergunner
Posts: 1659
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:28 am

OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by 4t5 »

Does anyone know how far shot travels, I sqirrel hunt with a .410, #4 shot.
Just wondering how far ,say a 45 degree angle would travel, not be effective,just travel.
Rumble.com/ hickock45
User avatar
TedH
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8396
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:19 pm
Location: Missouri

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by TedH »

I remember dove hunting in the past where I would occasionally get "showered" from other hunters that were probably 300 yards away. I learned quickly to keep the bill of my hat down. :wink:
NRA Life Member
Nath
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8751
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:41 pm
Location: England

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by Nath »

Yeah I was going to say 300yds, no4s in fourten :shock: How they do?

Nath.
Psalm ch8.

Because I wish I could!
JohndeFresno
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 4559
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:52 pm

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by JohndeFresno »

300 yds max sounds about right for your load. A .410 bore with a 2 3/4" shell generally launches its payload at about 1200 fps; and the diminutive, round #4 birdshot is only 3.30mm (.130") in diameter; so it won't retain its speed for very long; and it certainly has a poor ballistic coefficient.

Maybe an engineer/shooter can work up the stats from this information! ...or, maybe somebody can shoot a load at a 35 degree angle over a lake and see where it lands!
Chuck 100 yd
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 6972
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:52 pm
Location: Ridgefield WA. USA

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by Chuck 100 yd »

I haven`t tried it with #4 but most of the shot 7 1/2 & 8`s fall between 90 and 120yd (from the shooter) at our trap range. I doubt if the #4`s get beyond 200yd.
:?
Slick13
Levergunner 2.0
Posts: 307
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:16 am

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by Slick13 »

4t5 wrote:Does anyone know how far shot travels, I sqirrel hunt with a .410, #4 shot.
Just wondering how far ,say a 45 degree angle would travel, not be effective,just travel.
I've got a chart that says with the muzzle elevated 30 degrees, #4 birdshot will travel just under 300 yards. #9 will be about 150 yards, #6 250 yards.

~Michael
octagon
Senior Levergunner
Posts: 1902
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:56 pm
Location: TEXAS

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by octagon »

2200 X Shot Diameter (in inches) gives rough estimate of max travel of shot. Journee's formula.
piller
Posting leader...
Posts: 15391
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:49 pm
Location: South of Dallas

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by piller »

Sounds like we all might start watching where we are shooting, even with a shotgun. I sure wouldn't want to hit someone by accident. On the other hand, if I am aiming at then, then I do want to hit them. Hope the second part is never necessary.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
JohndeFresno
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 4559
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:52 pm

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by JohndeFresno »

OK,
#4 birdshot = .130 inch;
and .130 X 2200 = 286 (yards) maximum.

But how can we arrive at the true distance, not necessarily the absolute max, using the muzzle (initial) velocity as a factor?
Slick13
Levergunner 2.0
Posts: 307
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:16 am

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by Slick13 »

piller wrote:Sounds like we all might start watching where we are shooting, even with a shotgun.
Yes, but birshot is so small and light, and dumps what little energy it has so fast, I wouldn't be too worried about being hit with it beyond 100 yards.

~Michael
4t5
Senior Levergunner
Posts: 1659
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:28 am

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by 4t5 »

Nath, I like #4's better than #6's ,4's penetrate better for me ,6's stop just under the skin to many times.
I carry a single six for upclose ground shots, and a bolt action 410 thats been in the family for decades for tree work.
Rumble.com/ hickock45
Nath
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8751
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:41 pm
Location: England

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by Nath »

With being on many driven bird shoots in England here as in beating and shooting it is very common to have bird shot raining down on us all the time but at most it only stings on bare skin. You hear it more than feel it on clothing.
I have heard our AAA shot raining down around me before and errr that sounds scary!

Nath.
Psalm ch8.

Because I wish I could!
User avatar
marlinman93
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 7064
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:40 pm
Location: Oregon

Re: OT... SHOT TRAVEL

Post by marlinman93 »

It's not so much about how far it travels, but at what distance it still stings or even worse, embeds in your hide! Once it's over 100 yds. it wont do a whole lot of damage, and over 150 yds. it's not much more than the effects of a hail storm.
Pre WWI Marlins and Singleshot rifles!
http://members.tripod.com/~OregonArmsCollectors/
Post Reply