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OT - Father's Bow Shot Kills Grizzly Attacking His Son

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:shock: :shock: :shock:
"...Dad said a prayer for God to guide his arrow.”
I'd say He heard your dad, big time!
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(and yes, I also think the Cody Enterprise Newpaper photo looks 'shopped...)

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Father's bow shot kills grizzly attacking his son

By Carole Cloudwalker

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A Cody bowhunter in search of an elk found a grizzly bear instead in a Sept. 12 mauling incident on the South Fork.

And Ron J. Leming, 37, attributes his father's lifetime of bowhunting for saving his life.

“There are not many people who could stand their ground like that, especially with a bow and arrow,” Leming said Wednesday.

“I would have been mauled way worse, if not killed, if Dad hadn't had the nerve to stand his ground and shoot that bear with his bow. There's not many people who could have done that.”

Leming said his father's shot with a compound bow severed a major artery in the bear and hit his heart. The bear then moved about 80 yards down hill after being shot before falling dead over a log.

Leming's father, Ron G. Leming, 62, rushed to his son after the grizzly's initial attack, and managed the compound bow shot as both his son and the bear were running down the hill.

“Dad had missed two shots at elk” earlier in the several-day hunting trip to the family's favorite spot, Leming said.

“The night before, Dad said a prayer for God to guide his arrow.”

Leming added that while his father had elk, not bears, in mind as he prayed, he's glad the right arrow found divine intervention.

“If my Dad hadn't been there, who knows?” Leming said. “The look the bear had, the way he was doing ... I could have done absolutely nothing.”

Leming and his father had taken their gear 15 miles up the trail from the Boulder Basin trailhead for their annual bowhunting outing. Though they had spotted a black bear and her cubs, there had been no sign of grizzlies, which Leming said was unusual.

On Friday morning they headed out from camp, located at about 9,500 feet in elevation, and spotted a good elk.

The elder Leming was standing about 30 yards down the hill when his son heard a noise behind him and turned to see the bear standing there.

“He was king of the woods,” Leming said. “He thought there was an elk in there and he would bring it down.”

Leming yelled at the bear, but it charged him.

Trying to pull the trigger release string on his bow, Leming realized there was no time to shoot the bear himself, so he moved behind a tree and began running around it to buy time. Then he ran down hill, figuring he could move faster in that direction.

“I passed my dad and I saw an arrow fly right by my leg, about two feet away,” Ron said. He realized his father had shot at the bear, but he was unsure if the arrow went home.

“I took three or four more steps and I fell,” he said, “The bear was on top of me.”

Leming was kicking at the grizzly and possibly put his hands out defensively.

“It's kind of blurry,” he said.

The bear grabbed Leming's arm and, “I felt like I was in a vice (sic; if you're an educated reporter its "vise" - Tom), with the power that thing had,” he said.

He managed to rise and head for a forked tree, where the bear again jumped on his back.

“It was pretty scary,” the long-time hunter said.

The bear attacked again and Leming was hitting him with his bow as well as struggling with the animal, who suddenly moved away.

“He took a few steps toward Dad, then he started walking down the hill. I told Dad to kill him, but he (bear) was already starting to check out,” Leming said.

The bear soon fell on a log, dead.

“I got super cold - I think I was in shock,” Leming said.

His father kept asking how badly he was hurt, and he said he felt OK, considering what he'd been through.

“Things got blurry and I lay there for about 45 minutes. I thought I was going to pass out.”

The two men finally were able to get back to camp - Leming walked because he was unable to mount his horse.

They made sure the camp was clean and Leming “stood on the bear box” to get on his paint mare, Josie, which his father led over.

They took their other horses and got to the trailhead, then loaded the horses and even stopped by the Leming home to drop them off before going to West Park Hospital.

Leming was admitted overnight. He received stitches for wounds to his hands and arm, and the bites on his back were patched up as well.

Dennie Hammer, information specialist for the Game and Fish Department in Cody, said the men spotted a bull elk and were about to take aim when the elk spooked, probably because he spied the bear.

“They were trying to call in the elk when he spooked,” Hammer said.

Leming stood up and so did the grizzly, an 11-year-old male that was about 15 feet from the hunters.

“The bear charged and bit (Leming) on the right arm,” Hammer said.

“His father shot the bear with an arrow,” Hammer said.

The bear, though mortally wounded, charged the younger Leming again, this time biting his left hand and arm, as Hammer described the 9 a.m. incident.

By the time a game warden could reach the spot where the attack took place, the bear's body was badly decomposed because of high temperatures during the weekend, Hammer said.

For that reason, the bear's carcass was left where it fell. Hammer said it appears the grizzly was known to game officials, though he did not know whether the bear had worn a tag or radio collar.

He was captured in 2003 after he broke into a shed at Brown Thomas Meadows on the upper South Fork, Hammer said, and was relocated to the Jackson area.

The Friday incident remains under investigation, but Hammer said it appears to be a case of self-defense.

In such instances, it's legal to kill a grizzly bear, he added.

He said while grizzlies are no longer considered a threatened species, no hunting season for them has been established. They are under G&F management and eventually a season will be set, Hammer added.
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Lucky Guy!!

Bet he's Really happy the Old Man's a good shot!

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Oh dear oh dear, what are the ft/lb guys gonna do now :lol:

Nath. :lol: :lol:
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Wow! What a story.
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TedH wrote:Wow! What a story.

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When the topic of a “What Gun for Bear Protection” comes up, Many folks on the internet say that carrying a handgun for critter protection is just plain nonsense – bear, cougar, wolf encounters (not to mentioned protective female moose or rutting bulls), just aren’t likely to happen.

Well, being a bow hunter in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming (and certainly in Canada and Alaska) is one of those situations where it behoves one to be prepared for predators looking for an easy meal. You are in the woods, trying not to make noise, dressed in camo, covered with elk scent, making all different kinds of elk noises. It can get spooky.

So far this fall, two different friends, in separate locations have had mountain lions respond to cow (elk) calls. A couple of weeks ago, my son and his hunting partner encountered another mountain lion while working their way into position for an evening calling sequence.


Two years ago another friend of ours had to shoot a lion (with his bow) at point blank range. When I talked to his mom she said she asked him where his sidearm was – his reply “in my daypack”. He reported it to FWP who accompanied him back to the dead cat. They ruled “self defense”.

Two years ago, my son and his hunting partners saw 9 bears while bow hunting elk. Naturally it was the week before bear season opened. He said there was bear sign everywhere – scat, tree scratchings, etc – this was in the general vicinity of Yellowstone Park.

Several years ago, a grizzly was killed in the area we bow hunt elk.
http://montanastandard.com/articles/200 ... ijgdhg.txt

We frequently see bear and cat sign while hunting elk.

In the last two years, I’ve personally talked to two people who have had close encounters with wolves while bow hunting .

Here’s a warning that the FWP folks put out last year for bow hunters.
http://montanastandard.com/articles/200 ... jijjfj.txt

Here in Montana, it is legal to carry a handgun while bow hunting. Most of our friends that bow hunt carry handguns. My son and I both carry S&W 329 PD .44 Mags – perfect application for these lightweight TiSc guns. These guns are for “up close and personal application” – they had better be, or you are in big trouble with the FWP.

On weekends, my wife and I walk the dogs on an abandoned railroad grade just outside of town. It’s a fairly popular location, being close to town. We have talked with other walkers who have seen bear, mountain lion and moose. This is not an area where 911 would be of any help.

In addition to the weekend walks with my wife, I’m out in the woods, almost everyday, all year long with the dogs, hunting, fishing, etc. and my 329 PD is a real comfort.

I wouldn’t think of going out of the house without a handgun.

Well, I’ve really rambled on here – just jotting down stuff as it came to mind.

FWIW,

Paul
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Nath wrote:Oh dear oh dear, what are the ft/lb guys gonna do now :lol:
Nath. :lol: :lol:
Maybe since the arrow is a couple of feet long that means more ft/lb's. . .
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I remember a post I made about being a bow shooter, one of the guys made light of bow shooters.
I consider myself a fair bow shooter, but a Grizzly bear?
Desperate times call for desperate solutions, he did the best he could with what he had, I am glad that it worked out for them.
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Paul, The social engineers dont want us to use public lands and be armed and it has filtered down to the king's guards too whether they are state or fed. Of course they go armed when they go afield. The article about the bear, it could of been a self defense shooting and the person just didnt report it, cant blame them even when your right you need a lawyer to talk for you. Ive hunted in the Absaroka's and the bears are thick down there as there are getting up here, we've had 3 or 4 self defense shootings in as many years by hunters and twice that for grizzlies attacking a home owner on their property over poultry and stock. danny
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BigSky56,
When I retired ( recently ) I went out and bought myself a retirement present.
I knew I would be moving back to bear country, the county saw fit to close the dump; and make a dumpster available.
They conviently placed the dumpster between my shop and the natural springs, a straight line.
It is a question of when, not if.
That present was a S&W Model 629 .44 Magnum
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mescalero1, I would get some buffalo bore or double tap hcgc for that pistol you cant beleive the job they can do on critters. Ive got a big griz that visits me a couple times a year and going out when its dark for a arm load of wood makes you think twice. danny
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Hey,
I thought I was the only one that had thoughts about going out for wood at night.
Thanks for the tip . Will do. Them bears can be onery critters.
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There've been other bear problems in this area besides the one mentioned.


I think the picture is not photoshopped. A couple days after it happened I received an e-mail from someone that works with the guys wife, had about 20 pictures of the area and situation. Without looking back at the e-mail to be sure, that pic looks like one of the originals. It may have lost quality in repeated copying and publishing.


I also don't step out the door without having hardware in hand or on the belt, day or night.


I understand the reason G&F doesnt want people to carry a firearm during bow season is they are worried some may cheat (use it instead of the bow), but there's been pressure over time to change that, this incident may help change the rule.
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Handy-dandy shot placement chart....

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Gary

Palmdale, Ca -- brought back some memories. Back in the mid 60s I went to College of The Desert and we played baseball at Antelope Valley Junior College -- there were jack rabbits in the outfield. Visited again about 8 years ago to watch my son play baseball against the Lancaster Jethawks.

You guys have to bear with me today. I've got the cold that ate Tokyo. It's snowing lightly outside and the wind chill is about 20 deg F. I'm trying to work up to taking the dogs for a walk -- they are both looking at me like "What's Up With This No Walk Thing?". Usually on Saturday's & Sunday's, the son and I will hunt in the morning and I'll come home and the wife and I will take the dogs for a walk in the afternoon. Just not up to it today.

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It's legal to carry a CCW in Indiana while bowhunting (except on certain Military Reservations). Not too many Bears or Cougars, but it's not unfeasable to run into a Meth-tweaker or Pot grow...
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Holy moly! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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