1893 problems -need advice and help

[rjohns94]

Folks, I posted pics of the MARLIN 1893 I recently purchased. I picked it up on
Tuesday and today was the first chance of range day. I lined up on the target at 50 yards, drew a fine bead and "click" went the gun. No bang, boom, pfffft, just click. There appears to be something wrong with the firing pin. I need education and help. below is a pic of what I see - this does not look right. the mechanism that the hammer hits is about an inch long cylinder. thought this should be a firing pin. If it is, its broken.

I think I need to know what parts to buy and where. I think I am looking at the rear firing pin and what is missing is the spring, front firing pin, a retaining pin (2)

I paid a premium price for the excellent working rifle and here is the advice part? do I fix and stop moaning, do I ask for a $3000 refund, do I ask for some $ back because of this, ask to have him pay for parts and shipping? what do I do?

[Modoc ED]

I don't remember the circumstances of your purchase on this one Mike. If you bought it from a local gun store, pawn shop, etc., take it back and either ask for a refund or ask that they have it repaired.

If you bought it off GunBroker or some such place or from a private sale then you don't really have any options to speak of.

The guy that sold it to you could claim that it worked fine the last time he shot it and that the firing pin must have broken on your first shot.

[rjohns94]

Thanks,

I purchased it off gunbroker. He told me it functioned perfectly. I have located parts in Wisners, so I guess I will just order them and hopefully put it back to working condition. This really sucks!!

[jdad]

Marlin's have a 2-piece firing pin. The small piece in the rear is lined up with the front part when you close the lever. The locking bolt moves up.

Take the bolt out and push the back of the front half forward, so you can see the pin sticking out of the bolt face. There may just be a ton of crud built up behind the firing pin if the tip looks ok. If it doesn't pop out or you can see it's broken, then it's an easy replacement. There are 2 pins to push out. One holds the front half and one holds the rear. You can buy great reproduction parts from Wisners.


http://www.wisnersinc.com/rifles/marlin ... action.htm

Just an fyi, I have had several rifles that functioned fine without the spring.

[Modoc ED]

Check out this thread about 1893 firing pin:

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... pin+spring

[marlinman93]

I'm sure it's not an expensive fix, and as jdad said, it may be just dirt from 100 years of use. Don't buy anything until you've disassembled the bolt and have the firing pin halves out for inspection. Before you drive the pins out get a piece of hardwood thicker than the bolt and drill a hole in it just a bit larger than the pins. Then you can lay the bolt on top of the block and drive the pins into the hole. That will make it very easy, and you wont lose the pins either.
Once it's apart, run a cleaning brush and solvent in the firing pin hole on the bolt to clean that out. Check the firing pin tip, and if all is OK, simply oil the pin and reassemble it all.

[J Miller]

And check for burrs. Someone had trouble with their Marlin some time back and found some burrs. Once removed all was well.

Joe

[rjohns94]

Thanks for the responses. I took it apart and found there was no spring. or forward firing pin. no crud, just no parts. The seller was contacted and he said he would make it good by ordering the parts from Wisners and getting them to me. The pin that holds the forward firing pin in place is missing too. Wisners does not sell that part, any suggestions?

thanks

[J Miller]

Mike,

Odds are that Marlin would have the pins. I'd bet they are the same size as the current 336 pins.

Or, go to a local hardware store. I needed some for a Mdl 1894 Winchester bolt and found them one of the big stores. They called them tension pins.

Joe