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POLITICS - Obama on guns.

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Obama On the Second Amendment

Don't Believe Obama



The presidential primary season is finally over, and it is now time for gun owners to take a careful look at just where nominee Barack Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment.

During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for sportsmen or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.

But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don't listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia. (17)

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate assault weapons, but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen. (18)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry. (1)

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban. (15)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting. (3 )

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership. (2)

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities. (4)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense. (5)

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration. (6)

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws. (7)

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and research.8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them. (10)

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military. (11)

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines. (12)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping. (13)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods. (2)

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers. (14)

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions. (16)

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21. (9)

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005.
(http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00219)

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in Obama had greater role on liberal survey, Politico, March 31, 2008.
(http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005.
(http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00217)

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog,
http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08.
(http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... on-se.html)

5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.

6. Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record.Obama 08, December 11, 2007.
(http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/20 ... amas_c.php)

7. Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04.
(http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 60181.html)

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

9. Obama and Gun Control, The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999.
(http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

12. Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control, Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007.
(http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/ ... wards.html)

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action, February 15, 2008,
(http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog ... shoot.html)

14. Barack Obama campaign website: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . .
(http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urban ... nforcement.)

15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes
(http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_ ... ontrol.htm
and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004.

16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.

17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback
Forum, August 16, 2008.

18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to:
http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.



Concealed Carry

"...I am consistently on record and will continue to be
on record as opposing concealed carry," Obama said.
Chicago Tribune, April 27, 2004


Ammunition Restrictions -- "micro-stamping"

"There was a discussion today about a law that has just passed
in California that allows micro-tracing of bullets that have
been discharged in a crime so that they can immediately be
traced," he said. "This is something that California has
passed over the strong objections of the NRA. That's the kind
of common sense gun law that gun owners as well as victims of
gun violence can get behind." Barack Obama, Feb. 15, 2008
Baltimore Sun.com Feb. 15, 2008


Local Gun Bans

"I think that local jurisdictions have the capacity to
institute their own gun laws.The City of Chicago has gun laws,
as does Washington, D.C.," he said. Barack Obama, Feb. 15,
2008 Baltimore Sun.com


Licensing and Registering gun owners

Q: When you were in the state senate, you talked about
licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as
president?

A: I don't think that we can get that done.
2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas Jan 15, 2008
In the High Desert of Southern Calif. ..."on the cutting edge of going back in time"...

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Excellent. That seems to cover it all; and much more than I was aware of.
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This was sent by one of our members in Switzerland who is concerned for us. And to him by a friend. Intercontinental concern for the state of things in America.
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Old Savage,
Thank you for posting. Scary!

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No surprise- Chicago area Dem. Daughter lives in Plainfield, and when Obama canadacy was anounced for the Iowa caucus I asked here opinion. S he rolled her eyes and said all our politicans are crooks :P
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don Tomás wrote:Image
Well Tom, you just proved you CAN put lipstick on a pig! :wink:

OS - excellent post. I love the documentation. This is going to get pushed out to my distribution list - and hopefully a lot farther.

Ever notice how leftists hate state rights - or local rule - until it is about restricting a inalienable right they don't like? Then they are all for it.

I just can't believe this hypocrite has a good chance of being the next president... :( :( :(
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