DIDJAKNOW?: Savage's 1st Levergun Wasn't The 95/99 ?

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here ... politely.

Moderators: AmBraCol, Hobie

Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Post Reply
Pete44ru
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 11242
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:26 am

DIDJAKNOW?: Savage's 1st Levergun Wasn't The 95/99 ?

Post by Pete44ru »

Although Arthur W. Savage's fame & fortune was finally assured when he settled on the tilting breechblock action that eventually became tha Savage Model 99, his first efforts (as early as 1886) centered on developing a repeating version of the single-shot Martini rifle (for which he won a patent on July 12, 1887) - as late as 1891, two years after his patent application for the 1895/99.

I was reading about how the patent model was found - a .45-70, military-style rifle,
w/33 1/8" barrel, and wood forend extending to the muzzle.
The bands, sling, nosecap & cleaning rod are the same as the US single-shot .45-70 Springfield of the time - with a LOA of 50 3/8" and weighing 9lbs 7oz.

The rifle will work as a normal Martini - swing the lever down & forward to tilt the breechblock down to expose the chamber to single-load a cartridge, etc.

The Savage rifle differs however, in being able to be used as either a single-shot or a repeater via a separate cover that pivots on the same pin as the breechblock, opening or closing a passage between the two parts for cartridges to move fron an internal butt tube magazine into the chamber.

The tubular buttstock magazine is loaded by swinging the lever to open the action, then sliding the cover rearward to expose a port in the receiver underside.
Four cartridges are then pushed rearward through the port, and are retained in the magazine by a moveable toothed bar in the tube underside, whose teeth are raised to hold each cartridge separately when the action is closed.
A fifth cartridge (the last one loaded) is held between the breechblock and the cover by a detent, and is fed into the chamber upon closing the action.

Holy "Walnut 66" ! ! ;)

.
User avatar
Griff
Posting leader...
Posts: 21216
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:56 pm
Location: OH MY GAWD they installed a STOP light!!!

Re: DIDJAKNOW?: Savage's 1st Levergun Wasn't The 95/99 ?

Post by Griff »

Was it a tubular magazine, ala the Spencer, or vertical? I couldn't quite visualize it. Not that this piece of trivia will impress any of my huntin' buddies, as they probably never heard of ANY of the models mentioned in this thread! :P
Griff,
SASS/CMSA #93
NRA Patron
GUSA #93

There is a fine line between hobby & obsession!
AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
hfcable
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 2531
Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:24 pm
Location: wasilla, alaska and bozeman, montana

Re: DIDJAKNOW?: Savage's 1st Levergun Wasn't The 95/99 ?

Post by hfcable »

Pete, that is so neat! where did you find that info? are there any pictures?
cable
Pete44ru
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 11242
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:26 am

Re: DIDJAKNOW?: Savage's 1st Levergun Wasn't The 95/99 ?

Post by Pete44ru »

The tube mag was horizontally inserted in the front 3/4 of the Martini buttstock, pretty much parallel with the stock's bottom line - hence my reference to a "wooden 66" , meaning ILO a more modern Remington Nylon 66.

There are pics, and drawings of the innards, as well as pics of the patent application - but I have no way to scan them, so they will copy to a photo host for posting - Sorry.

The article is in an old NRA publication from my library, that I was re-reading today -
The NRA Gun Collecting Review, Vol.1 (1983), by editor Robert N. Sears: "The First Savage Rifle".

.
Post Reply