Post 64 model 94 stock and handguard removal?

[S.B.]

How do I remove the stock and handguard from a post 64 model 94 Winchester? The front sight doesn't seem to have any screws? I drove the sight post out of it's dovetail but, no screw under it. How is the front sight and base attached?
Any help would be greatly appreciated? TIA.
Steve

[J Miller]

How do I remove the stock and handguard from a post 64 model 94 Winchester? The front sight doesn't seem to have any screws? I drove the sight post out of it's dovetail but, no screw under it. How is the front sight and base attached?
Any help would be greatly appreciated? TIA.
Steve

Steve,

First make sure you have the proper screw drivers. The screws are easily damaged.

The butstock comes off by removing the tang screw and pulling it off. That's all.

The forearm comes off by:
>Remove the magazine plug screw at the muzzle end. Capture the plug, it is under spring pressure. Remove the plug and spring to get them out of the way.
>Remove the two barrel band screws. They use a very fine thread and could be very tight.
>Pull the rear (larger) barrel band forward off the forearm. Slide the magazine tube forward and out of the forearm and bands. It could be stuck in the forearm, if so careful twisting should free it.
>Once you get the magazine tube out of the forearm pull it free of the barrel bands.
>The front sight ramp is soldered onto the barrel, it does not come off, neither do you need to remove the sight. Rotate the front barrel band upside down and slide it over the band/sight assembly and off the barrel.
Slide the rear band straight off and over the front sight.

Joe

[S.B.]

Joe, thanks.
Steve

[S.B.]

Well, nothing succeeds like success and your advice worked just great. Thankyou very much. Joe, your a pal.
Steve

[J Miller]

Steve,

You're very welcome. I'm glad I could be of help.

Joe

[S.B.]

Joe or others with an answer: Another problem has developed, my nephew was in my basement shop today and cocked the hammer on my disassembled post 64 model 94, now the hammer doesn't want to fall to the uncocked position. How or what must I do to get the gun back to the uncocked position? Is there a trick to this? I tried replacing the stock forearm and all the other parts but, that didn't work? I don't want to force anything. Is there a way to trip the sear in this position?
The little safety prong down by the lever doesn't want to go up, either like when I squeeze the lever?

[morgan in nm]

I have seen this happen with earlier 94's that have a lot of wear. Sometimes, with the stock off, the lower tang will have enough slop that you cant get the lever to push the lever safety up. Have you tried to let the hammer down gently with the butstock on?

[S.B.]

Yes, and this gun shows very little wear?

[morgan in nm]

Its got me stumped without looking at it. How far have you taken it down? If you have only removed the wood, magazine, none of those parts have anything to do with the action being able to function.

[J Miller]

Joe or others with an answer: Another problem has developed, my nephew was in my basement shop today and cocked the hammer on my disassembled post 64 model 94, now the hammer doesn't want to fall to the uncocked position. How or what must I do to get the gun back to the uncocked position? Is there a trick to this? I tried replacing the stock forearm and all the other parts but, that didn't work? I don't want to force anything. Is there a way to trip the sear in this position?
The little safety prong down by the lever doesn't want to go up, either like when I squeeze the lever?

Steve,

There is a tiny little projection hanging out of the bottom of the lower tang. That is the trigger block. It's purpose is to prevent the rifle from firing until the lever is all the way closed. With the stock out the tang is moving upwards to the point the lever can't depress the trigger block.

Carefully push that up and hold it up as you pull the trigger. BUT, keep your thumb on the hammer so it don't slap forward too fast.



Joe

[S.B.]

Joe or others with an answer: Another problem has developed, my nephew was in my basement shop today and cocked the hammer on my disassembled post 64 model 94, now the hammer doesn't want to fall to the uncocked position. How or what must I do to get the gun back to the uncocked position? Is there a trick to this? I tried replacing the stock forearm and all the other parts but, that didn't work? I don't want to force anything. Is there a way to trip the sear in this position?
The little safety prong down by the lever doesn't want to go up, either like when I squeeze the lever?

Steve,

There is a tiny little projection hanging out of the bottom of the lower tang. That is the trigger block. It's purpose is to prevent the rifle from firing until the lever is all the way closed. With the stock out the tang is moving upwards to the point the lever can't depress the trigger block.

Carefully push that up and hold it up as you pull the trigger. BUT, keep your thumb on the hammer so it don't slap forward too fast.



Joe

That's the part that won't move, even with the stock reinstalled?

[J Miller]

It's under spring pressure. You don't notice that when you grasp the rifle and the lever presses up.

It could also be jammed. Drop a bit of oil inside and make sure it's not gummed up.

Does this 94 have the flat or coil main spring?

Joe

[S.B.]

Got my Brownells screwdriver set out and took this thing apart this morning, with the help of Gun Parts schematics and internet advice? Bottom line is: the main spring strut was out of position on the hammer? Parts all looked new with marginal wear and lot of factory cosmoline(grease). Trigger pull improved imencely after I got it back together. Could this have been installed improperly at the factory, when manufactured? I've shot 20 rounds through this gun, when I first took delivery and had no trouble(save the bad trigger pull) but, when I took the stock off, things went south, quickly?
I greatly appreciate all the help I've gotten here, from all who tried to help with this problem.
Steve