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I haven't bought Tyson since their affiliation with the Clintoons was divulged back in the 90s.meanc wrote:I will never purchase another Tyson product...
Is "sobenk" a nickname for "Soros?"sobenk wrote:I think it's good that the company is being flexible for its workers, they're the ones asking for it.
Apparently there is a need for some people to work on Labor Day, and if the Muslim workers take care of this they get the other day off.
Uncalled for sir.Dosrios wrote:Is "sobenk" a nickname for "Soros?"sobenk wrote:I think it's good that the company is being flexible for its workers, they're the ones asking for it.
Apparently there is a need for some people to work on Labor Day, and if the Muslim workers take care of this they get the other day off.
Sounds more than vaguely communist. If they want to honor Labor by Laboring, why not let them?Labor Day, the first Monday in September, is a creation of the labor movement and is dedicated to the social and economic achievements of American workers. It constitutes a yearly national tribute to the contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of our country.
Correction-This country was founded by people who wanted to be allowed to worship when they darn well pleased. Those people happened to be Christian.Sixgun wrote:This makes me want to vomit. PC, I'm not and I say the hell with anything Muslim. This country was founded on Christian principles.--------Sixgun
Really?The union's national president, Stuart Appelbaum, said it is the union's job "to stand up to win respect for every worker's right to practice their faith."
I guess an employee could enter that area, with his dog, and eat a ham sandwich, while praying to Jesus, right? It sounds quite silly, but a Christian would not have a problem doing that. A Jew might not want to follow that Christian. A Muslim would probably have fit over the posibillity of praying after that Christian. Who's religion gets the respect, in this situation?Lawson said that the Shelbyville plant is one of a handful that have designated prayer areas that can be used by groups of all faiths.
You might have a point if you could direct me to a denomination of Christianity that includes Ham Sandwiches and Dogs as fundamentially required for prayer.Hagler wrote: ....I guess an employee could enter that area, with his dog, and eat a ham sandwich, while praying to Jesus, right? It sounds quite silly, but a Christian would not have a problem doing that. A Jew might not want to follow that Christian. A Muslim would probably have fit over the posibillity of praying after that Christian. Who's religion gets the respect, in this situation? Shawn
And Travis, yes, this country was founded on the principles of freedom for everyone, equally. But it had nothing to do with 'worshiping when they darn well pleased.' The idea was that the gov't would not establish a religion. Nothing more, nothing less. It did not separate church and state as many, many 'experts' painfully reiterate. It simply said that the gov't wouldn't establish a religion. And it never has. But saying that 'those people happened to by Christian' is first of all an error in statement of fact or more accurately, truth. They didn't just happen to be Christian. They were Christians. Many of those founding fathers were devout Christians and it is evident in the language of all documents from the Revolutionary period, not just the Declaration of Independence or Constitution.Travis Morgan wrote:Correction-This country was founded by people who wanted to be allowed to worship when they darn well pleased. Those people happened to be Christian.Sixgun wrote:This makes me want to vomit. PC, I'm not and I say the hell with anything Muslim. This country was founded on Christian principles.--------Sixgun
Bull. We're not talking about PC, nor are we discussing coddling Arab radicals. We're talking about Somalis in a Union which, as a Union Body, elected to do this.raven5 wrote:I'm not an alarmist, however I am a realist. This PC trend/movement that is happening is going to be the end of us as a nation. The U.S. used to stand for something. What that is is slowly eroding and being forgotten.
Just take a look around and rather than just accepting things as news of the day or just the way things are now actually comprehend what is happening.
Note the Bold. MANY. Not all. There were also MANY Jews in the US Revolution. Not insignificantly in the Banking/finance realm... where "Christians" of the era refused to treat.And Travis, yes, this country was founded on the principles of freedom for everyone, equally. But it had nothing to do with 'worshiping when they darn well pleased.' The idea was that the gov't would not establish a religion. Nothing more, nothing less. It did not separate church and state as many, many 'experts' painfully reiterate. It simply said that the gov't wouldn't establish a religion. And it never has. But saying that 'those people happened to by Christian' is first of all an error in statement of fact or more accurately, truth. They didn't just happen to be Christian. They were Christians. Many of those founding fathers were devout Christians and it is evident in the language of all documents from the Revolutionary period, not just the Declaration of Independence or Constitution.Travis Morgan wrote:Correction-This country was founded by people who wanted to be allowed to worship when they darn well pleased. Those people happened to be Christian.Sixgun wrote:This makes me want to vomit. PC, I'm not and I say the hell with anything Muslim. This country was founded on Christian principles.--------Sixgun
False. Read a bit more than what is being spoon fed you by the Christian Right. Never mind the Deists like Jefferson & Paine, JEWS had a HUGE influence in the Revolution.This country was founded very, very strongly under a Christian belief and believing otherwise means one hasn't studied American History very much, if at all.
http://www.jewishmag.com/80mag/usa3/usa3.htm ... I didn't even have to search to find this tidbit.Oct. 25. 1765, a group of Philadelphia merchants gathered in the State House to sign the non-importation agreement to fight the hated Stamp Tax of the British government. The first man to step forward to sign his name was the president of Mikve Israel Congregation, Philadelphia's only synagogue, Mathias Bush.
Unless you are a Jew. Then you swear by Adonai &/or the Torah.God, the Christian God, was prevalent and still is (although one might not think so anymore). In any court in the land, if you take the stand what do you swear on? Your grandmother? Your kids? No, the Bible. This wasn't by accident.
No argument there. But PC incorporates much more than the Ideal of letting people worship as they please so long as they hurt no one.The gov't didn't est. a religion and will let anyone worship as they want without undue recourse, however the Christian ideology was and is prevalent in our nation's ideals.
This PC trend that is happening is ridiculous.
And this has what to do with Freedom of Religion?Note the following:
1. McDonald's now has 'caution this coffee may be hot' written everywhere because some idiot tried to make people believe that she didn't know it was that hot and should have been warned, therefore Mickey D's is liable.
2. You can't smoke in a bar/nightclub because it might offend those who don't smoke (darn, and so many people bring their families to bars because it's family entertainment and so wholesome.....read the sign, adults only...)
3. Whether you support the war or not (doesn't matter for the point I'm making so either way leave it for another thread) the way we are fighting it is ridiculous. 7 rules to follow before a troop can engage the enemy after being shot at? At what point did anyone, anywhere lose track that this is WAR? There are no rules!!!!
4. It took how many years to build a WWII memorial, and it was done with mostly private money? The gov't didn't want a part of it; it wouldn't look good funding a memorial to war...
Again, what exactly does any of this have to do with Freedom of Religion?True story, found this out today:
Here's the scenario: A fellow worker in construction that I don't see too often who was/is a painter. A foreman to be exact. Due to his crew being completely Mexican and none of them being able to speak any English (which obviously he couldn't communicate with them) he was told by his boss that he had to go to school to learn to speak Spanish. He thought it was ridiculous and refused to do so. He was then shown a new/updated list of (his) job requirements, etc. New on the list was being able to speak Spanish. This is not a joke. This is real. He was then fired. Won't mention the company, but it is in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky.
Now, why do I have to go to a US Bank ATM and after inserting my card have to first choose English or Spanish??? Shoot, I'm in Cincinnati and I have to choose my language preference? How can that be??? I'm not in El Paso, or somewhere down South......![]()
Some people need to wake up. Things are changing and not for the good. The very fabric of America is eroding and it isn't due to Bush as some would have you believe.
If the Muslims want to pray then have at it and do it on their break or lunch times. Find your own area to pray in. Accommodate yourselves.
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