Reloading manual question.

[Basswrangler]

Does anybody own one of these manuals for a pistol caliber?

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.e ... 3#enalarge

If you have one, does it include rifle data?

[Chuck 100 yd]

Yes, I have several of them including the .44mag. one. It does have rifle data. Good book,enjoy!

[HORACE]

Guys, I have one for the 45/70 and although its a 'no frills' production, it does have a lot of data not easily found elsewhere. I myself now want another one for my new 44 Magnum, but I forget where in the US I got it.

Does anyone have a link to a retailer online who will post to Oz, as Cabelas etc won't deal outside US.

Many thanks for any info.

[awp101]

Does anyone have a link to a retailer online who will post to Oz, as Cabelas etc won't deal outside US.

Many thanks for any info.

Will Midway? That's the link that was posted...

[Tycer]

PM me. I'll order and send them to you.

[Basswrangler]

Thanks for the replies yall. I've been to forums where people will just overlook boring (but important to me) questions like this one!

[awp101]

I just realized I have several and never looked for rifle info in them, I guess I should!

[runfiverun]

the pistol caliber cartridges in rifles is the same data
the guns and ammo are built to the same pressure specs.
you donot see 44mag rifle ammo at the store right??
it says 44 mag 357 mag on the box...

[Ysabel Kid]

I have one for every caliber I reload (where they make one) - a dozen or more. These are basically reprints from the various reloading manuals - just all pertaining to a single caliber. A very handy reference to have - great for comparing and contrasting load data.

[AJMD429]

the pistol caliber cartridges in rifles is the same data
the guns and ammo are built to the same pressure specs.
you donot see 44mag rifle ammo at the store right??
it says 44 mag 357 mag on the box...

Yes, and No. As I understand it the pressure specs are the same, but from a performance standpoint, you would of course get higher velocities with the longer barrels and absence of cylinder gap, and it is nice to just have those for reference, even with the identical loads.

Also, it is more practical to try launching heavier bullets out of longer barrels (more time for accelleration of the heavier projectile), so the actual loading data may well differ in terms of bullets and powder as well.

Finally, some rifles (say a Marlin .32-20 vs a S&W .32-20 revolver) may take higher pressures than some handguns, although these days with the .460 S&W revolvers out there I've yet to see a levergun in that round, so that generalization may be less and less true with the mammoth new handguns being made.

[mikld]

I have the one pictured, among others. Basically it is a compilation of reload data from most bullet manufactures and powder manufacurers. I like it because it is lots of good info in one place, don't have to juggle several reloading manuals.

[Basswrangler]

the pistol caliber cartridges in rifles is the same data
the guns and ammo are built to the same pressure specs.
you donot see 44mag rifle ammo at the store right??
it says 44 mag 357 mag on the box...

Yeah, most if not all loads will be the same, but I'd like to know approximate velocities I'm getting out of my rifle.

[oldmax]

Loadbook for 45Colt : " Sierra Bullets " has a page for "Colt", " Ruger" and "Win94AE"
It lists the Velocities for each along with some different powders,,,,
As stated, Good book for comparing Loads for different Powder & Bullet Manufactuers..

[runfiverun]

i re-member imr putting 44mag rifle data in their
load books with rifle powder 4895 etc..
it was rather amusing to see that the pistols
actually had higher velocities.
the hodgdon book shows the same loads in revolvers and rifles but with the "corresponding" velocity.
funny that my chrono doesn't agree.

[oldmax]

I checked the 44 mag load book at Gander Mtn, There are Some Sierra Loads for Win 94.

[rhead]

The second edition of the Hornady Handbook list separate sections for rifle and pistol data for 44 mag, 357 mag, and 38 special. The greatest differences are for the 38 specials with loads going close to low-mid range 357 mag levels. The mag loads appear to differ by about what would be expected from two different test barrels in two different labs. They do list the rifle velocities.
I do not know when they quit the separate listings. There is a disclaimer that the top level loads for the rifles should not be used in a revolver.