I do like hyphenated cartridges
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High Desert Hunter
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I do like hyphenated cartridges
I need to pick up a levergun to go with this Buckeye Special in 38-40.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I need to pick up a handgun to go with my Marlin 1894 in 38-40. So I guess we are in the same boat but your in the bow and I'm in the stern.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I don't have a lot of experience with the 38-40, but I do have a bunch of brass, and am looking for the right 180ish grain bullet mould.
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I know of the 38-40, but I don't know it. I am somewhat familiar with the 45-70, and have used it. I have used a 30-30, and consider it a hyphenated cartridge.
Many of the old cartridges are still worth using. Not every target or critter needs to be stomped to death.
Many of the old cartridges are still worth using. Not every target or critter needs to be stomped to death.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
If y'all take a look over at Starline's page, you'll see most of the hyphenated cartridges we're interested in here are in stock. Unfortunately the 218 Bee and 25-20 are not on that list, but 32-20 is there, with the caveat that using their 32-20 to form 25-20 and 218 Bee may yield feeding issues in some rifles. 45-70 is also not currently available, but they're accepting backorders for it.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I prefer the .38-40 over the .44-40 just because I like the .40 caliber bullets the .38-40 uses better.
When I started hunting with my old 1800's rifles I took my 1889 Marlin in .38-40 for mule deer hunt and shot a big 200 lb. mule deer at about 80 yds. with it. I've never before or since seen a deer react so violently to a hit as that one did! The deer bucked up on it's hind feet and fell over backwards and didn't move at all. The .38-40 is a good deer cartridge for sure.
When I started hunting with my old 1800's rifles I took my 1889 Marlin in .38-40 for mule deer hunt and shot a big 200 lb. mule deer at about 80 yds. with it. I've never before or since seen a deer react so violently to a hit as that one did! The deer bucked up on it's hind feet and fell over backwards and didn't move at all. The .38-40 is a good deer cartridge for sure.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
This is my choice for the hyphenated cartridges
25-20 - 32-20 -- 25-35 -- 30-30 -- 38-55 -- 45-70 -- 38-40 -- 44-40 --
i have used all of these for pleasure or hunting, they flat out work!
oh forgot 32-40 & 30-06, might be more?
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25-20 - 32-20 -- 25-35 -- 30-30 -- 38-55 -- 45-70 -- 38-40 -- 44-40 --
i have used all of these for pleasure or hunting, they flat out work!
oh forgot 32-40 & 30-06, might be more?
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
What bullets are you gents using in your 38-40s?
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My favorite is probably the 32-20, because until recently there wasn't really a 'modern' equivalent.
I finally got a 25-20 (Marlin 1894CL), although I'd always wanted a Thompson Contender barrel in 25-35 for that bullet diameter.
I didn't own a 30-30 until I was probably fifty years old, but found out that it was against the law to live in the midwest and NOT own one, so I had to comply...!
My first 45-70 was a Thompson Encore rifle barrel, but later on I picked up a Marlin Guide Gun, then a Marlin '1895' octagonal 'Cowboy' one.
I've never had a 38-40 or 44-40, but they seem like great fun, and actually reasonably practical cartridges for a reloader.
But I generall shoot the 35 Remington instead of the 30-30, and the 444 Marlin (or 500 S&W) instead of the 45-70, and of course the 357 Mag, 44 Mag, and 45 Colt pretty much covers everything bigger than the 32-20, so these days the 32-20 is still my most-used hyphenated cartridge.
My favorite is probably the 32-20, because until recently there wasn't really a 'modern' equivalent.
I finally got a 25-20 (Marlin 1894CL), although I'd always wanted a Thompson Contender barrel in 25-35 for that bullet diameter.
I didn't own a 30-30 until I was probably fifty years old, but found out that it was against the law to live in the midwest and NOT own one, so I had to comply...!
My first 45-70 was a Thompson Encore rifle barrel, but later on I picked up a Marlin Guide Gun, then a Marlin '1895' octagonal 'Cowboy' one.
I've never had a 38-40 or 44-40, but they seem like great fun, and actually reasonably practical cartridges for a reloader.
But I generall shoot the 35 Remington instead of the 30-30, and the 444 Marlin (or 500 S&W) instead of the 45-70, and of course the 357 Mag, 44 Mag, and 45 Colt pretty much covers everything bigger than the 32-20, so these days the 32-20 is still my most-used hyphenated cartridge.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I use the Lee 90431 it works good for me, just tumble lube it around in a bowlHigh Desert Hunter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 10, 2026 12:16 pm What bullets are you gents using in your 38-40s?
175 gr
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I have a nice 38WCF1892 from my grandfather that has a Marbles tang on it and I have to say it is a GREAT shooter! I looked for a Colt clone for years and just recently given up. I have handguns I don't get to shoot now so I'm showing restraint.
I have posted in the past that when I was young I wished the 38-40 was any other caliber. Once I mentioned to my Dad how it was pretty weak and he said to me If you put a 40 cal slug through a deers lungs weighing 180gr. at 1300fps it's going to die!
I have killed several with it and they did, quick too.
I have a 45/70, and 32-20, also and they do the job they did 100+ years ago and sure are fun!
I have posted in the past that when I was young I wished the 38-40 was any other caliber. Once I mentioned to my Dad how it was pretty weak and he said to me If you put a 40 cal slug through a deers lungs weighing 180gr. at 1300fps it's going to die!
I have killed several with it and they did, quick too.
I have a 45/70, and 32-20, also and they do the job they did 100+ years ago and sure are fun!
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I only load for 6 hyphenated cartridges: .30-30, .30-06, 32-40, .40-90SBN, .44-40 & .45-70. For 4 of 'em I only have one rifle each. In both .30 caliber cartridges I have multiple rifles so chambered. If I were to ever add another it would probably be the .38-40. But... I'd have to have both rifles & handguns in it.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I feel like a slacker. I only load the 45-70, 30-30 and 30-06. Although I have loaded some 30-03 for a friend a few times. The 30-03 is pretty hard to find. Harder to find are rifles like his, an unmodified 1903 Springfield.
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I use the old Lyman 401043. This was a black powder bullet, and while many say it will push-in when using smokeless, I haven't had that issue. I've used this bullet in all my 38-40s with excellent results.High Desert Hunter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 10, 2026 12:16 pm What bullets are you gents using in your 38-40s?
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I like them too. I have a 25-35, multiple 30-30's, 30-40 Craig, 30-06, 32-20, 38-55, 44-40, and 45-70. Would love to have a 38-40.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
One thing about the 38-40 in a Blackhawk, recoil is almost nonexistent. I can push them harder, but hard to argue with a 40 caliber 190gr bullet at 940 fps.
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Re: I do like hyphenated cartridges
I shoot a few, 32-20, 38-40, 44-40, 30-30, 38-55, 40-60, 45-60, 45-70, 45-75, 50-95. I think that's all of them.
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That is 10mm territory, and the 10mm is reputed to be something more than it is by gun writers. Funny that a more than 100 year old cartridge can do the same.High Desert Hunter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 12:10 am Screenshot_20260110_220707_ShotView.jpg
One thing about the 38-40 in a Blackhawk, recoil is almost nonexistent. I can push them harder, but hard to argue with a 40 caliber 190gr bullet at 940 fps.
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