Running over a Cop with your car is 'compassionate'

[AJMD429]

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The woman who tried to run over an ICE agent has been given the George Floyd treatment - she's a kind and gentle martyr, and 'compassionate'....

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1jepdjy256o

Her compassion is evidently kind of like the FLoyd riots that were 'mostly peaceful'...

But at least her family already has been awarded $550,000 by the compassionate public via GoFundMe...

[Streetstar]

Did the cop get run over?

The cop who was composed enough after getting "run over" to launch an additional 2 rounds through the side glass ? Lack of situational awareness had the guy in front of the car when the lady was trying to leave ---- not all police officers are Rhodes scholars

Qualified immunity will work well in this case for the guy




Pretty lively discussion we have on this on Oklahoma Shooters

https://www.okshooters.com/threads/ice- ... st-4643805

[Old Savage]

Sorry Street but can’t see that as an accurate assessment. Maybe you need to watch more video views. The officer in the path was almost certainly reacting to the vehicle coming at him.

What likely happened was she was focused on the officer at her door and gunned it to get away. She likely did not see the other officer in front of her that she hit. He probably fired reflexively as the vehicle came at him.

There was as a case here where a guy being into custody charged the officer. There were five hits starting at the lower leg up to the chest in a line.

[Blaine]

Sorry Street but can’t see that as an accurate assessment. Maybe you need to watch more video views. The officer in the path was almost certainly reacting to the vehicle coming at him.

What likely happened was she was focused on the officer at her door and gunned it to get away. She likely did not see the other officer in front of her that she hit. He probably fired reflexively as the vehicle came at him.

There was as a case here where a guy being into custody charged the officer. There were five hits starting at the lower leg up to the chest in a line.

^^This^^

[piller]

Being in a State where the Police have a duty to retreat is part of the problem. The Cops in Minesota can be prosecuted for failure to allow a suspect to leave.

[AJMD429]

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The liberals won't ever watch this, because of their bubble-thing, but Tim Pool has a good analysis of the video...at 7:30 into the podcast.

https://rumble.com/v741nom-activist-adm ... -pool.html

The woman was obstructing law enforcement, refused to get out of her vehicle as instructed, and then took off TOWARDS the officer.

She may be a kind and nice and wonderful person, and being a lesbian counts for virtue-points, but she provoked her own death, and I don't at all blame the officer.

Watch the video in Pool's podcast....!

Our younger generation of liberals have never had to be held responsible for their own behavior, so they think it is ok to break laws and rules and lie and cheat and censor and steal and be violent.

[stretch]

I'm going to get flamed on this forum for posting this, but here goes:

ICE agent Jonathan Ross did NOT have to shoot Renee Nicole Goode. It appears that she was trying
to exit the area, and was not in the process of committing a Federal Crime. Lon Horiuchi didn't have
to kill Vicki Weaver, either.

To quote the late Colonel Jeff Cooper:

".....I have been criticized by referring to our federal masked men as 'ninja' ... Let us reflect upon the fact
that a man who covers his face shows reason to be ashamed of what he is doing. A man who takes it upon
himself to shed blood while concealing his identity is a revolting perversion of the warrior ethic. It has long
been my conviction that a masked man with a gun is a target. I see no reason to change that view."

Do we need better immigration enforcement in this country? Yes!
Did tariffs need to be adjusted? Yes!

But there are ways to do things in a civilized society without murdering women or alienating allies like Canada.

-Stretch

[Blaine]

In Cooper's day, Marxists were not taking pics of LEOs, doxing them along with their addresses, and their families, and calling for their execution. At least not in the USA. The vests and jackets they wear clearly and boldly ID them as LEOs.

[stretch]

Be that as it may, ICE agent Jonathan Ross did NOT have to shoot Renee Nicole Goode.

Needless and preventable.

Whatever she was alleged to have done before shots were fired could
have been followed up on later. They DID have her tag number, after all.

Calling her a F*&#$% B*&$%# after he shot her, and refusing to let a doctor
render first aid is appalling, and NOT how a professional LEO behaves.

-Stretch

[AJMD429]

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Unless you've seen the video as shown at the angle, and in slow-motion, presented by Tim Pool, I can see how it appears she was trying to just 'get away', but when you see her tires turned TOWARDS the officer, and spinning as she hits the gas, as he tries unsuccessfully to get out of the way, it becomes obvious that the 'first impression' is perhaps different than reality.

Pool's video (go to 7:30 in the video) - https://rumble.com/v741nom-activist-adm ... -pool.html

Liberals accuse Pool of using AI to fake the video, but even the 'gay black dude' Amir Odom has pretty much the same analysis...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnzlF78qpSU

The body cam footage also pretty much shows that contraty to all the assertions, the officer WAS hit by her car.

https://rumble.com/v743pwy-new-pov-foot ... oting.html

As to whether he SHOULD have shot her as she accelerated towards him, I don't know, but it sure seems to be legally justifiable, and I think I would have done the same.

This review adds some context and calls into question some of the claims about no first aid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkhWwlKsl4E

As to swearing and calling her obscene names, I doubt very many of us here on the forum would NOT swear at someone who just intentionally ran into us with their vehicle, regardless of whether we shot at them in the process. LEO's are supposed to be held to a 'higher standard' but I don't think my opinion of an officer in this situation would be altered by his cursing; it's different than if he were speking in that manner when just pulling someone over for a speeding ticket.

The ONLY part I see the officers did wrong was that even if she took a bullet through the nose and into the brainstem, and was obviously instantly dead and not fixable, it is just bad public relations (and bad morally, in case you are wrong in your impression that the wound was fatal) to not immediately render first aid or allow others to do so. The only reason I could see not to do that would be if there were some other dangerous activity still going on (like a bunch of other wacko protesters with bricks or cars or even firearms now stampeding) that would render the process of providing aid to her that would likely be futile and symbolic a venture that would endanger other innocent lives.

The main public opinion seems to be formed before watching any of the videos or getting the background story, and then the videos that have been released by the 'mainstream' media have all been selected to show only the parts that fit the liberal narrative.

[stretch]

Doc, I've seen the video in question, and about 6 others.

When Renee Good was shot, the front of the vehicle was clearly moving
away from Jonathan Ross, who shot her through the side of the car/front
windshield pillar.

Did he actually get hit by the car? One video shows him putting his hand out
and pushing against the front fender, which is when he lost his phone.
Would the front fender have hit him if he didn't do that? Who knows?
Does it justify him killing her as she goes by? I don't think so. Again, they
had her tag number, so if there was a charge, they could have just followed
her, or had Minneapolis PD arrest her later. He didn't have to kill her.

At the moment he shot the Renee Good, he was definitely NOT in danger, nor
was anybody else.

The attitude of Ross's colleagues is also telling - one ICE officer is waving the
others back with no real urgency, and there are NO other protesters approaching
the situation, as is obvious by their body language and other video.

-Stretch

[Streetstar]

What likely happened was she was focused on the officer at her door and gunned it to get away. She likely did not see the other officer in front of her that she hit. He probably fired reflexively as the vehicle came at him.

This --- i believe OS

These "Kumba Ya " Tik Tok and Instagram liberals dont have respect for the loudmouth with the gun --- yelling like a Perris Island drill instructor to civilians ---- its disconcerting to them because they dont know real violence

but the shooter looks to have had the pistol out - as she was backing up -- a reflex shot , sure but those guys' were already treating that lady, her dog and the gay wife filming outside the car as if they were school shooters

--- I dont know -- from a tactical perspective - the shooter is a moron in my eyes , but he lives another day --- whether i agree with the dead lady or not , she was voicing her 1st amendment rights , and being parked broadside in the street is a traffic offense that any entry level attorney could have argued down from so called felony charges and she doesnt get another tomorrow

That said - would i have gotten "out of the f'in car !!! " --- while i have very little to no respect for heavy handed loudmouths pumped up on Mountain Dew and caffeine pills --- i do have respect for the plastic and steel thing they carry that puts holes in things --- so yes, with my past experience, i would have complied

But --- whats wrong with approaching a car - At the ready -- but -- "LAdy - we need you to pull to the side " ----- even if they had succesfully dragged her out by her hair , -- they still would have had the car in the middle of the street obstructing traffic - which was the principle complaint to begin with

But there have been a lot of bad days for America -- this, Ashley Babbitt, Randy Weaver -- who knows how many others - Luis Rodriguez (Warren theater , Oklahoma City) - far lesser known but right in my backyard

Just a bummer all the way around

[stretch]

These "Kumba Ya " Tik Tok and Instagram liberals dont have respect for the loudmouth with the gun --- yelling like a Perris Island drill instructor to civilians ---- its disconcerting to them because they dont know real violence

but the shooter looks to have had the pistol out - as she was backing up -- a reflex shot , sure but those guys' were already treating that lady, her dog and the gay wife filming outside the car as if they were school shooters

--- I dont know -- from a tactical perspective - the shooter is a moron in my eyes , but he lives another day --- whether i agree with the dead lady or not , she was voicing her 1st amendment rights , and being parked broadside in the street is a traffic offense that any entry level attorney could have argued down from so called felony charges and she doesnt get another tomorrow

That said - would i have gotten "out of the f'in car !!! " --- while i have very little to no respect for heavy handed loudmouths pumped up on Mountain Dew and caffeine pills --- i do have respect for the plastic and steel thing they carry that puts holes in things

I think some of these guys are operating on a surfeit of testosterone, caffeine, and ego, and they don't have the patience or training
to deal with regular people who are NOT a violent threat. One look from a DI was all it took for compliance when I was in Basic Training.
But when ya wear a mask and sunglasses, you remove that tool and a lot of other visual cues. I agree with you that the shooter is a moron.

I also agree with you that it's an unholy mess at this point. And it also makes life harder for ICE and the Border Patrol, because they just
ruined a whole lotta trust.

My sympathies go out to Renee Good's family and the people of Minneapolis.

-Stretch

[piller]

Maybe she shouldn't have been shot. HOWEVER, she shouldn't have been following Law Enforcement all morning, screaming at them, and pulling in front of their vehicle just for the photo opportunity. The Officer who was hit was not the one keeping her attention. The one at her side was. Those community classes she had been attending on how to obstruct law enforcement, and Minnesota's laws which require law enforcement to back down, had given her a wrong idea of what would happen. If the officer had a duty to move from in front of her car, then protesters have a duty to move from in front of legally operated cars. Laws must mean the same at all times or they mean nothing. Nuances are for the court room, not for the street.

[AJMD429]

Maybe she shouldn't have been shot. HOWEVER, she shouldn't have been following Law Enforcement all morning, screaming at them, and pulling in front of their vehicle just for the photo opportunity. The Officer who was hit was not the one keeping her attention. The one at her side was. Those community classes she had been attending on how to obstruct law enforcement, and Minnesota's laws which require law enforcement to back down, had given her a wrong idea of what would happen. If the officer had a duty to move from in front of her car, then protesters have a duty to move from in front of legally operated cars. Laws must mean the same at all times or they mean nothing. Nuances are for the court room, not for the street.

True, PLUS the people saying she was just an innocent bystander and 'panic' made her just want to escape, evidently didn't pick up on her demeanor in the video where she was smugly defying the cop. Not a hint of panic, but rather defiance and indifference. She may not have premeditated the plan to run over the other cop, but she was looking right at him, and accelerated towards him. Perhaps she was just in a mood of "who cares" if she runs over another 'fascist', but either way, her death, or the death of some other Useful Idiot, was inevitable, as the DEMOCRATS keep agitating for more violence and defiance, knowing that eventually that leads to death. DEMOCRATS WANT A CIVIL WAR, and when they keep provoking and setting these dangerous situations up, the only alternatives seem to be to capitulate (wall off these cities and expel them from the US and let them all become Somalia sattelites) or apply legal measures, including detainment and arrest - and lethal force if necessary.

It is sad that this had to happen, and sad that we've had two or three generations now of public-school-indoctrinated idiots who don't believe anyone should be held responsible for their actions, that rules are for other people, and that violence is an acceptable way to settle public policy debates.

Just look at the complete STUPIDITY of the elected and appointed officials in New York -
https://x.com/iAnonPatriot/status/2009681913359810771

[Streetstar]

Laws must mean the same at all times or they mean nothing. Nuances are for the court room, not for the street.

Lot of posturing on this one from both sides right now (not here -- just -- the whole interwebs is blowing up )

I expressed my views on the tactical and professional angle of the agents involved --- but thus far --- it hasnt reached the heat of the George Floyd incident that i can tell

To me and in my eyes --- this is far worse --- but since the lady involved was a white woman , who cares --- even saw a brief blurb where a chick came down to pay her respects and said she was conflicted about whether shedding her white tears were justified over this - as white provilege doesnt deserve it - (or something like that )

but while some of us may have slightly differing -- or even wide differences of opinion on some things, i am reminded of the Leverguns.com credo posted below ----- Im not a liberal - more of a libertarian and somewhat agnostic on politics , but following a Christian path in my own life -- shooting down hispanic gang bangers is one thing , but blasting disillusioned white women who are -- somewhat -- only blocking the street is another -- This whole deal is an epic fail all the way around

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

[AJMD429]

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I think on this Forum, we all do a pretty good job of expressing our opinions without being hostile, because we all are pretty much on the same page as far as our overall values and Americanism.

Unlike those on the left (and of course I’m generalizing), conservatives and libertarians tend to be willing to agree to disagree. When I’m around conservatives and libertarians, and especially the Christian subset of those groups, I never have the feeling that any of them would fail to have each other’s back if things got nasty. We just generally avoid things getting to that point, but it sure seems like those on the left are pushing and provoking.

One thing I’ve noticed is that even the people who think the shooting was justified, are pretty much not celebrating it or saying it was a good thing, even if they think it might’ve been a necessary thing. That’s totally unlike the behavior of the ‘other side’ when it came to the murder of Charlie Kirk.

This all reminds me of things I’ve read about Charles Manson and the Tate murders, where it appears that the CIA was trying to provoke more violence between blacks and whites for whatever reason (read the book ’Chaos’ by Tom O’Neill on the topic). I think the evidence was pretty clear that was the case, but I really don’t understand what their goal was. Were they racist and trying to get the whites to eradicate the blacks, or were they simply trying to destabilize the United States…?

It certainly appears at this point that there are a bunch of people who really want to trigger a violent civil war in the United States, this time between liberals and conservatives or urban and rural or illegal alien versus citizen. Those parties appear to include the left-wing ‘mainstream’ news media, the Democrat party, the RINOs, and presumably China, Russia, or other nations that would like to destabilize our nation.

We’d best not let that happen, which is a good reason for those of us who are conservatives or libertarians to discuss things like this politely and not get to split up amongst ourselves. So far, I think we are doing that. The question becomes how can we reach and educate the 75% or so of the public who really aren’t paying attention but will jump on whatever emotional bandwagon the left puts in front of them…?

Politics gets pretty complicated if you have to take into account history and contemporary world politics and national politics, and how it interfaces with economics and human behavior, and a large part of the electorate quite literally cannot read at an eighth grade level, and are more concerned with what government program will give them free stuff or who Britney Spears is dating, than they are anything more abstract or long-term. Than you add the ideologues who have some kind of childhood daddy-issue or mommy-issue and pretty much hate the United States and everything it stands for, and I think we have a tinder box on our hands…

[Blaine]

Well, apparently the "mostly peaceful" marxists were out by the thousands last night in Minnesota hunting Fed LEOs on the street with death and violent threats. They were going inside of hotels looking for them. To what end? Given the overt threats of violence and death I'd like to know who would want to cede the right of LEOs to defend themselves when confronted by a mob like that? Sorry, but I stand firmly on the side of the LEO's right to defend themselves against injury or death.

[AJMD429]

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Sorry, but I stand firmly on the side of the LEO's right to defend themselves against injury or death.

I wholeheartedly agree, but wow - how about THIS cop...



The video and story ---->> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portl ... i-AA1TXuUs

...talk about the antithesis of a 'rogue cop' - this guy seems more of a 'ROUGE' cop....

(...sorry about the huge pictures but I don't know how to shrink them...)



He's actually pandering to 'people of color' and insulting them (by assuming they are all on the side of the gang-bangers), all the while validating statistical reality (that the gangs in question are indeed composed almost entirely of certain illegal alien ethnicities). THEN he caps it off by literally CRYING on-camera about how terrible it is that two gang-members were shot while committing crimes, and he of course pledges to try to protect them from further harm.

I'd respect a cop who shed tears over a child that got raped or murdered, or for that matter an adult, or who would shed tears for the fact that so many in our nation no longer have any respect for human life, or for the American values of free speech, property ownership, or the Second Amendment.

But certainly not this guy, who sheds tears for Tren de Aragua gang-bangers...

It is amazing that a girly-fool like this would become town dog-catcher, let alone Police Chief.

I thought usually the county-wide-elected sheriffs were more likely to be decent than the big-city-mayor-appointed police chiefs, but there seem to be some exceptions, as well - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/0 ... e-sheriff/,

[AJMD429]

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So these 'protesters' ('rioters' seems often to be the more applicable term) think it is perfectly fine to throw water bottles ("It's just water") or soft-drink cans ("It's just diet soda") or even bricks and rocks...!

https://rumble.com/v748uh6-federal-agen ... ice-a.html

The ones they catch (AND the 'journalists' who sympathize with them) should be blindfolded and tied to fence posts, then have such things thrown at them, aiming for the face. Blindfolding would be to simulate the distracted police officer who is trying to maintain some order when some flying object hits him or her in the face.

Protest all you want, but don't block streets people need to use, don't interfere with police/ICE, and absolutely do not commit assault or battery against bystanders or officers.

Maybe then they'd get the idea...