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A black guy and a gay guy talking about Republicans....

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...and......Trump Supporters....!!!!

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Well Doc that was not what I expected, some very valid points were raised. Thanks for posting.
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I think 90% of the public 'gets it', and just wants to be treated fairly, use federal government for the fewest things possible (common defense, settling disputes between lower government layers, stopping lower government from violating the Bill of Rights), and use a free market capitalist system to help everyone attain the best and safest and healthiest lifestyle via provision of the best selection of high quality services and goods at the most affordable prices. 90% of us don't care about someone else's gender, income, 'orientation', occupation, religion, or skin color; we just want them to be honest, hard working, kind to others, and contribute positively to society in their own way. 'We' of that mindset tend to want to improve society by building up, not tearing down, and we judge 'success' by whether we are helping people. Under a true capitalist economy, helping others generally does lead to material success, but we don't obsess over money like the the left does, nor do we judge 'happiness' or 'fulfillment' by materialistic goals. Even though 'we' may disagree with someone's faith, if that faith guides them in a positive, society-improving direction, we will NOT hate them, nor hurt them.

The rest of the public is mired in materialism, envy, and preoccupied with their own desire to accumulate not only material success, but power over others, even to the extent of using violence against those who dare speak opposing beliefs or public policy positions. Some seek indirect violence by wanting to regulate every detail of our lives (failure to comply leads to arrest and resisting that to violence), and some are willing to throw the bombs, swing the chains, light the fires, or 'just throw rocks' (are they really too stupid to see the maiming and potential lethality of a four pound rock at 100 fps, or do they just not care...?)

The left claims to be 'inclusive' but have been the most awfully divisive group there is; pretty much everything they do tries to divide Americansinto groups pitted against one another based on stuff those evil Trump supporters DON'T care about - gender, religion, orientation, income, and skin color.

'Blexit' is scaring the Democrats, because their hypocrisy and ruse is being exposed, and their strategy of pandering-but-not-helping in order to keep blacks poor and uneducated so they will be dependent on Daddy Government and keep voting Democrat, is failing. Most blacks want the same thing as whites; safe streets, good schools, and fair policing.

Statistics reflect the FACT that white citizens are more likely to be shot by police on any given encounter, and that police realize some blacks are more frightened and more beliggerent when contacted, because they have been lied to about that risk, AND because yes there are a few bad and racist cops, so that plus the legal fears now means cops actually generally go lighter on blacks than whites. Not the 'narrative' we are told by the left, as they try to whip up riots for news ratings and to get rid of Trump, but the TRUTH, as people like Candace Owens and Larry Elder both express so well.

The people over 50 years of age may remember a different Democrat Party, and are so propagandized and TDS-afflicted that they can't imagine pulling the 'R' lever in the voting booth, but if they keep electing Democrats, things are only going to get more divided, and more violent. Maybe that's the plan all along...a Cloward-Pivens strategy to further us towards a socialist police-state where the white, racist Democrats can take self-anointed 'leadership' place as virtual plantation owners, managing over a perpetually dependent black voter base, where allegiance is given in exchange for taking care of their room and board via EBT cards.

....Yet Trump-supporters are the 'raaacists'... :roll:
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this is well written Doc.

However, what ails America CANNOT BE FIXED WITH VOTES. America's problem is a spiritual one.... demons don't give a rip about votes, and no amount of ballots can stop them.... the issue is that these masses we're seeing are tools of the devil... no elections, not in our wildest imaginations, can alter the devil's agenda, OR YHWH's agenda for that matter. the bible has very specific details about the end of the age, the preparation of the masses for the final acts of the human race before Christ returns. Nothing in anybody's political agenda can deter the future, when its time arrives.

a political system that is systemically devoid of YHWH and CHRIST, at the level of the CFRs, and that systematically encodes into the CFRs outrages, (for example, every tax payer colludes with antichrist to murder American babys), outrages against the Creator, intentionally provocing him with the godless, athiestic, infinitly corrupt world that they are creating before our eyes, and unless that society changes it's mind and seeks God's forgiveness, can ONLY expect God's JUDGEMENT.

NO POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT ARRAYS ITSELF AGAINST THE SOVEREIGN CREATOR CAN HOPE TO EVADE HIS JUDGEMENT. unless it repents as Ninevah did . . . .

The only hope for America and Americans is to FOR REAL trust Christ, His death in our place on a cross, His burial, and His resurrection from death. This is the only option that YHWH offers to avoid his coming judgement. Those who turn to God this way are spared Christ's judgement, which is a one-way trip into the lake of fire. Those who reject Christ's offer are all under Christ's judgement already.

Let those with ears to hear, hear Christ's and change their minds about Christ's offer, and put all their trust and confidence and faith in Him, and decline to side with the antigod, antichrist majority marching in lockstep with the devil.

Let those with eyes to see, see the world as Christ sees the world, to FOR REAL see legions of demons, and to see the hosts of heaven staging to deal with the end of the demonic reign over mankind. This reality, vividly revealed in the bible's books of Daniel and Revelation draws explicit graphic pictures of the period that humanity is moving into. It takes spiritual revelation and knowledge to comprehend this. IOW, we must be born again. If we are not born again we recieve all the judgements due the demons and the devil. If we are born again we recieve all the blessings of live in Christ's presence with YHWH. It's a binary choice.

it is right and good to vote our conscience, but if we expect and hope that exercising our opportunity to vote in the world's system will change the world's system, we are hopelessly deluded.

if we change our mind about Christ and His Kingdom, and believe on the One who sent Him, we are translated out of the world system, and adopted as his children, and live with him forever.

Jesus Christ is alive forever, and offers that life to us. let those with ears hear what Christ says to America:
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Grizz, you make good points,and I think all of us with deep and real Faith get it.

However whenever people express it like you do (very well I might say) it makes everything sound so futile....like sure, WE can pray and believe and worship and live our lives properly and tithe and try to spread out Faith to others, but all of it is in vain as far as changing our nation/world for the better. WE might attain some sort of salvation of better afterlife, but shouldn't there be a way for us to make the Earthly experience BETTER for all mankind...?

Religion should be uplifting, and generally it is, and is a source of hope and strength....but sometimes it is also depressing....! I want to make things BETTER, which is part of what was my 'calling' to medicine, but with the 'progresssssssssssssives' sabotaging any and every attempt to make the world Fair and Just for ALL, regardless of the superficial things 'liberals' judge everyone by (gender, wealth, orientation, age, education, religion, and skin color), it seems impossible. :(
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Good and fair questions. The thing is, believers are already making the world better, and then when we answer our calling we double down on that. Christ is going to make the world better, and he doesn't need our help to do it. We cannot save the earth because it belongs to the actual Almighty God, not to us. And he has an agenda for its future that includes things like global earthquakes that flatten moutains and disappear islands. Stuff like that.

So what I see is that Christ wants human beings to come to him, believe what HE believes, and communicate that to others. Sometimes that will be by a healing touch. Or saving someone's life at risk to our own, or seeing to it that the 4000 language groups with no revelation get to hear the bible and the offer of the gospel in their own language, or someone may get involved in helping well drillers in Africa provide safe drinking water to the thousands of villages that drink sewage, or help little girls who are trafficed in sex slavery break free, and experience God's love in a safe setting where they are taught a skill or craft that can sustain them, or provide a flock of chickens to a family in the 10-40 window that will make the whole entire extended family self-supporting, and thereby enrich the village and their neighbors, or restore the thousands of children with cleft palets, or provide surgery that will enable crippled children to walk and run, or help defeat blindness in impoverished Africa. If I cannot go there and do that, I can help it happen financially.

[I'm deleting this. Even I cannot always make triple negatives sound positive]

But save the earth? No Way!! I always get a vicarious laugh out of that notion when I think about the belly laughs that might erupt from the loyal angels who know what's coming, but not when. The earth is the LORD's, and the fullness thereof. That's us. Reference Revelation Chapter 17 and those surround it. It's a 3D Technicolor Trailer for the end of the world as we know it. And there is no possibility that it is not true. And there is no possibility that we can avert it. But what we can do is minister Christ's love and compassion and his desire for us to fellowship with him.

Thanks for the input Doc. Jesus said if we give a drink of water to a child, in the name of a prophet, we will receive a prophet's reward. It's not that hard....
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