A Project For The Grandsons

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A Project For The Grandsons

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Not too long ago I picked up a Winchester Model 67A .22 Single Shot rifle. Made sometime before 1944, it was in pretty decent shape.
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I was wanting a good beginner's rifle for my grandsons. This one was a bit looooong for them.
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So this morning I started in on the rifle ...
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The barrel was cut to 16 1/2" from the breech face to the muzzle. Then I had to cut a new dovetail to remount the front sight.
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A little polishing and blueing and the barrel was finished. Then I started on the stock. First I cut off the forend and reshaped it. When that was done I cut 2" off the stock and refitted the buttplate.
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This is what I cut off the gun .. the barrel, forend and stock.
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The finished Boys Rifle
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The boys with it ..
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It is now a proper Boys Rifle.

We will start out shooting CB Caps while they are learning safety, proper gun handling, etc. Living in the country we can shoot in the back yard with no issues.
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What makes that extra cool is that you did it yourself.
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THATS what I call a "post of substance". Well done Jim.......and I might say, professionally. Those who are not in the know do not know how hard a dovetail is to cut without a milling machine for as you know, it only takes a job that is 5 or 10 thou off to destroy the whole job.

It's like a step back in time as most of us old heads remember similar stories. Most kids today want a brand new high dollar target rifle with a 24x Leupold.-----006
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Nice, hiw much weight did you lose after cutting barrel and stock.
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3leggedturtle wrote:
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Nice, hiw much weight did you lose after cutting barrel and stock.
I am not sure. I did not weigh it before and after. The biggest thing was it was so long with that 27" barrel! It's heavy for the youngest .. he's 5 .. but he will grow into it. And it is now compact enough they can handle it.
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Cool. Hope you all have lots of fun.
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Sixgun wrote:
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THATS what I call a "post of substance". Well done Jim.......and I might say, professionally.
THANK YOU MY FRIEND! I appreciate that. I enjoy tinkering. John Linebaugh once told me I should stick to horse-shoeing. He was right .. I am no gunsmith ... and my milling machine is a horseshoe rasp! :lol:
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That is awesome Jim! That sure will mean something to those grandsons!
Brings back memories. I found a nice 67 Boys Rifle when my sons were young. They had so much fun shooting it when they were kids. It hasn't been fired in years...... but I have a grandson and granddaughter now!

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Jim,

Somewhere in my stuff I have one of those Savage over under pack rifle .22 lr over 20 ga. It was all I wanted when I was a boy and my boy has no interest in guns.

I'd like to hand it down to your grandkids if you will let me. Still has the little case that it breaks down into and the compartment in the buttstock to hold spare ammo.
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Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:24 pm
Jim,

Somewhere in my stuff I have one of those Savage over under pack rifle .22 lr over 20 ga. It was all I wanted when I was a boy and my boy has no interest in guns.

I'd like to hand it down to your grandkids if you will let me. Still has the little case that it breaks down into and the compartment in the buttstock to hold spare ammo.


I would be honored, my friend.
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That's perfect. Those boys will cherish the rifle and the photos for a lifetime. Nothing better than this kind of family memories.
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Awesome job! I have two or three 67s including a factory Junior model. They cant be beat as first rifles. IMHO, a cheap gun from that era is far better than most if the "stuff" they are passing off as guns now.
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A really good example of "Less is More" the kids will love it ..... :D
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I still have my 67. I thought about passing it on to my eldest, but then what would I do about his kid brother. I solved that dilemma y buying two Savage 24C camper companions.

When they got started they were only given.22 LR ammo. But once they had that down they were allowed to use the .410 barrel.

The eldest received his that Christmas and two years later the younger one received his. Big brother did a good job helping to teach the younger one. It wasn’t long before I was comfortable letting the go out together by themselves.
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Sixgun wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:04 pm
THATS what I call a "post of substance". Well done Jim.......and I might say, professionally. Those who are not in the know do not know how hard a dovetail is to cut without a milling machine for as you know, it only takes a job that is 5 or 10 thou off to destroy the whole job.

It's like a step back in time as most of us old heads remember similar stories. Most kids today want a brand new high dollar target rifle with a 24x Leupold.-----006
I have a milling machine or two and I can mess up a dovetail with the best of them.
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JimT wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:40 pm
Scott Tschirhart wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:24 pm
Jim,

Somewhere in my stuff I have one of those Savage over under pack rifle .22 lr over 20 ga. It was all I wanted when I was a boy and my boy has no interest in guns.

I'd like to hand it down to your grandkids if you will let me. Still has the little case that it breaks down into and the compartment in the buttstock to hold spare ammo.


I would be honored, my friend.
You have my email .. maybe my phone number.
We can get together at your convenience.


I'll make it happen. It will be my pleasure.
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Nice. I bought a kid's CZ452 to get my daughter started and it's about that size. I hope you've got a stash of CB Caps somewhere. I can't find them or shorts or even longs. I mean, who bought all of the longs out?
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Excellent work Jim. A fine example of what's important is the Indian, not the arrow. I never could figure out why a "boys rifle" had to be so dang big!

Now it just need a suppressor . . .


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Jim, did I ever show you the little Winchester 67 that Rich Hoch gave me for the boys? It was cut off similar to the one you did, but he fitted a Mossberg 4X scope to it. A rifle cut down like that works great off the floorboards behind the front seat of a sedan. I used to keep some 22 shells in my shirt pocket where they were handy. Stop along the ditch bank, grab the rifle, poke it out the window and pop the muskrat, prairie dog or other target of opportunity.

My uncles scrimped and saved to pick up one of the original 67 youth models and my brother has it now. The Hoch rifle gives kids the experience of shooting with a scope, the Moreland rifle gives them the open sight experience. It's hard to have too many of the old Winchester 67's around.
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AmBraCol wrote:
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Jim, did I ever show you the little Winchester 67 that Rich Hoch gave me for the boys?
No sir. At least I do not remember you showing it to me. You may have .......... :lol:
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JimT wrote:
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AmBraCol wrote:
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Jim, did I ever show you the little Winchester 67 that Rich Hoch gave me for the boys?
No sir. At least I do not remember you showing it to me. You may have .......... :lol:
We didn't use it that much in Missouri due to the boys having grown and become interested in repeaters. I picked up a Mossberg 43, or some such model number, that year and used it for squirrel on the old farm where we hunted that year, but took more squirrels with the AK Church Single Six than with all rifles combined. I may or may not manage to pack it in for Raton this year, we'll see. The problem is that my oldest grandson has grown past that rifle - I believe. It would make a good conversation piece on the range anyway. It doesn't group for sour apples on paper, but for first shot accuracy on vermin it does great. I've thought about relining the barrel to see if it would improve, but it still does its job and doesn't owe me anything.
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I sure hope to see you in RATON!!
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