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Federal Hammer Down

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Hi folks,

Anyone had a look at the new Federal Hammer Down ammo?

The 44 mag they advertise has some impressive ballistics:

270gr bullet
1715 fps MV
Gives - 1764 Ftlbs

That's quite impressive. According to Hodgdon there max velocity with a .44 mag rifle and a 270 gr bullet is 1638 fps

Be interested to know of any real world experience with it.

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Re: Federal Hammer Down

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I dont think I'd want to shoot a whole box of those at one outing from a super Blackhawk! Bet those numbers from a long gun would be great for deer & pigs though.
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Must be using a new powder.
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Re: Federal Hammer Down

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GunnyMack wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:28 am
I dont think I'd want to shoot a whole box of those at one outing from a super Blackhawk! Bet those numbers from a long gun would be great for deer & pigs though.
Yeah, it's built for lever actions
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Re: Federal Hammer Down

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piller wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:15 am
Must be using a new powder.
That would be my guess. Wonder what it is.
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Re: Federal Hammer Down

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Those are impressive numbers if from a handgun. But I haven't bought over-the-counter ammo for a .44 Mag in 40 years.
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This should be no surprise as about fifteen years ago I was getting 1700+ from My Lyman/Keith 265grn hard cast in the .45 colt. (from a rifle) It was punching holes in 1/4" steel like paper..............................
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Re: Federal Hammer Down

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GunnyMack wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:28 am
I dont think I'd want to shoot a whole box of those at one outing from a super Blackhawk! Bet those numbers from a long gun would be great for deer & pigs though.
Oh yeah! Probably make the wrist sting a bit.
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Re: Federal Hammer Down

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.45colt wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:56 pm
This should be no surprise as about fifteen years ago I was getting 1700+ from My Lyman/Keith 265grn hard cast in the .45 colt. (from a rifle) It was punching holes in 1/4" steel like paper..............................
Really? May I ask what load?
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Had to dig out my file cards. I was on a mission to get the most out of the .45 colt in a rifle, 24" barrel . 27 grains of 296 with Keith/Lyman 265 gr cast from wheel weights and water quenched. another card shows that I loaded Hornady 200 grain bullets over 28.9 gr of 296 for a five shot average of 1981 fps. I was following every thing I could find for the Colt in a rifle. most of this is in Pacos article "the .45 colt in a rifle" . not long after this a light went on in my head :shock: and I got a 45-70 . http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/ ... vergun.htm
DISCLAIMER ; WHILE THIS WORKED FOR ME IN A STRONG RIFLE I DO NOT RECCOMENED ANYONE ELSE TRY THESE LOADS . IF YOU DO IT'S AT YOUR OWN RISK .
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Used to know a dude who was several years older than me who went to the local landfill and shot his Ruger Super Blackhawks when he was off. Worked in the oilfield, so either lots of overtime or not much work. He liked 24 grains of 2400 with a 240 grain JHP. From what I remember, Hercules listed that as maximum then. Alliant lists it as maximum now. It had a pretty stout kick. This new load is getting more velocity. In my Ruger Carbine it might be a serious 100 yard sledgehammer, but in a handgun it is going to have some heavy recoil.
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Re: Federal Hammer Down

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Well, Federal have done a promo video:

https://youtu.be/hju8l0GV6O4
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Re: Federal Hammer Down

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I am curious about what their plans might be for more cartridges. I like the .35 Remington. That bullet in the video seems to retain its weight well, but there are many others which do just as well.

I have heard anecdotes about people shooting large hogs with .30-30 and the bullet not penetrating. I have never seen that to be the case. The hog in the video hit by the .30-30 went down right away. My concern with higher velocity in the .30-30 is with bullet stability. What velocity would be too much for the twist rate in the .30-30 to be effective?
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