Shooting Times, Feb 1973

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Hmm, so what i get from that is standard 44 mag load data can be used in a 44wcf as long as its in a 92 or stronger action. Is that right?
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Galloway wrote:
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Hmm, so what i get from that is standard 44 mag load data can be used in a 44wcf as long as its in a 92 or stronger action. Is that right?

Take a look at what Larry Gibson has been working on. https://sites.google.com/view/44winches ... rry-gibson
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Missed that one... I was busy over in Uncle Sam's southeast Asian games... But until I bought my Lightning (Colt rifle replica), I've never owned a .44-40... And won't be using any heavy loads in it, anyway!
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Griff wrote:
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Missed that one... I was busy over in Uncle Sam's southeast Asian games... But until I bought my Lightning (Colt rifle replica), I've never owned a .44-40... And won't be using any heavy loads in it, anyway!

Glad ya made it home....

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https://sites.google.com/view/44winc...y-at-200-yards

Did this 200 yard target this morning with normal Winchester 73' loads.

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Galloway wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:54 pm
Hmm, so what i get from that is standard 44 mag load data can be used in a 44wcf as long as its in a 92 or stronger action. Is that right?

frankly I'm pretty sure the 44-40 brass isn't nearly as strong as 44 mag..... :o
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Merle wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:24 pm
Galloway wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:54 pm
Hmm, so what i get from that is standard 44 mag load data can be used in a 44wcf as long as its in a 92 or stronger action. Is that right?

frankly I'm pretty sure the 44-40 brass isn't nearly as strong as 44 mag..... :o
Does not necessarily matter. The 44 Magnum was designed for revolvers, not rifles.
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Bryan Austin wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:27 pm
Merle wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:24 pm
Galloway wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:54 pm
Hmm, so what i get from that is standard 44 mag load data can be used in a 44wcf as long as its in a 92 or stronger action. Is that right?

frankly I'm pretty sure the 44-40 brass isn't nearly as strong as 44 mag..... :o
Does not necessarily matter. The 44 Magnum was designed for revolvers, not rifles.


yeah, it does matter - pressure is pressure
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Merle wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:05 pm
Bryan Austin wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:27 pm
Merle wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:24 pm
Galloway wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:54 pm
Hmm, so what i get from that is standard 44 mag load data can be used in a 44wcf as long as its in a 92 or stronger action. Is that right?

frankly I'm pretty sure the 44-40 brass isn't nearly as strong as 44 mag..... :o
Does not necessarily matter. The 44 Magnum was designed for revolvers, not rifles.


yeah, it does matter - pressure is pressure
So take a good look at the photo, do you seriously think there is much difference between the three? Seriously?

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Bryan Austin wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:23 pm
Merle wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:05 pm
Bryan Austin wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:27 pm
Merle wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:24 pm



frankly I'm pretty sure the 44-40 brass isn't nearly as strong as 44 mag..... :o
Does not necessarily matter. The 44 Magnum was designed for revolvers, not rifles.


yeah, it does matter - pressure is pressure
So take a good look at the photo, do you seriously think there is much difference between the three? Seriously?

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so you expect a picture to tell you how much pressure a case is made for? good luck with that.
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Merle wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:40 pm
Bryan Austin wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:23 pm
Merle wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:05 pm
Bryan Austin wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:27 pm


Does not necessarily matter. The 44 Magnum was designed for revolvers, not rifles.


yeah, it does matter - pressure is pressure
So take a good look at the photo, do you seriously think there is much difference between the three? Seriously?

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so you expect a picture to tell you how much pressure a case is made for? good luck with that.

Well then what's the bloody case made of, cavalier?

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I can safely get 1800 fps with 2400 powder with a 200 gr. xtp bullet in a 1894 Marlin 44-40.
with a 265 gr. Hornady & RL7 I was getting close to 1400 fps & 1400 fps with a 245 gr. cast bullet
also with RL7. no ill effects with any of the loads. I may play with more RL7 in the case with the 44-40
with the heavier bullets


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