So I cooked my lever

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So I cooked my lever

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And it did this. Just thought I'd ask here first before I try to figure out.
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i'd say it's ..rare
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Not sure, but it does not seem well.
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Is that the sear?
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Hey David! How's the Low Wall shoot?

I don't get it with the lever...the bolt is back and the picture appears to be out of focus/stretched......is it an optical illusion caused by a poor picture?......what kind of a '73 is that? I see new wood but it looks like a reblued receiver....-----6
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Lost me? I don't get it.
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This may not be of any use to you but I found it useful once upon a time.

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Tycer wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:55 pm
Is that the sear?
Yeah .... :o
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Sixgun wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:59 pm
Hey David! How's the Low Wall shoot?

I don't get it with the lever...the bolt is back and the picture appears to be out of focus/stretched......is it an optical illusion caused by a poor picture?......what kind of a '73 is that? I see new wood but it looks like a reblued receiver....-----6
It's a Winchester, I abuse my levergun's which are all 45 LC which I load with fffg. I shot it, sat for a day or two just got busy and took it out to clean.
Pulled the handle back to see how bad she was and that flew out. I used to machine parts for old pre-1898 pistols I can figure most things out.
I was just hoping for a do this or that, not uncommon but...

So the Low Wall I would have told you if I got it, I'm still fighting Illinois stupidness. I (I mean my wife) applied for a foid in June it's still under review but I hear they are all 4-5 months to get. 30 day law is a joke. They did the 4473 call or whatever and the state NEVER responded AT ALL, this puts people in a bad place. I've given up on any other options. So she sits. Friend (during our fire drill right now) told me he applied in April and got it Friday.

Winchester was new, so other then this it's like new still outside, the blackpower eh?
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Mmmm..it's a Winchester....which means it's a Miroku.....wow....that leaves me puzzled.......never heard of that issue......I do have plenty of books on assembly/disassembly and I can post these if need be.....let me know.....

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Sixgun wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:46 pm
Mmmm..it's a Winchester....which means it's a Miroku.....wow....that leaves me puzzled.......never heard of that issue......I do have plenty of books on assembly/disassembly and I can post these if need be.....let me know.....

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me too!
and get her seated NOW!

Yes a Miroku sorry, I'll start removing screws when I get to it ;)
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I still can't see what is wrong in the picture. Someone please enlighten me!
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Alan in Vermont wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:47 am
I still can't see what is wrong in the picture. Someone please enlighten me!
Looks like the sear has come loose or broken and is poking out behind the trigger.
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David wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:12 am
Tycer wrote:
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Is that the sear?
Yeah .... :o
If you are referring to the piece there behind the trigger, it is not the sear. That is the trigger block/safety bar. It prevents the trigger from being pulled until the lever is fully up. Notice the piece protruding from the reciever just behind it. The lever contacts went fully up releasing the trigger block.

What is the gun doing or not doing?
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Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:
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David wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:12 am
Tycer wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:55 pm
Is that the sear?
Yeah .... :o
If you are referring to the piece there behind the trigger, it is not the sear. That is the trigger block/safety bar. It prevents the trigger from being pulled until the lever is fully up. Notice the piece protruding from the reciever just behind it. The lever contacts went fully up releasing the trigger block.

What is the gun doing or not doing?
The gun was sitting against a chair for a day or two waiting for a cleaning, I cocked the lever to start the clean and "fling" this flew out the top against the hammer.
I'll just start taking it apart can be any worse then fixing a lighting :O (The ultimate pile of c...p)
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Is this a joke? All I can see in the picture is the bolt extention.
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No. Something either broke or came loose and is hanging out. Here are some pics of a model 94 and a Marlin. Different guns, yes. Still, the things sticking out should look similar. His 73 looks as if something on the bolt and something behind the trigger is sticking out too far. The part behind the trigger is what the lever pushes up to let the gun fire.
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My old eyes still can't see what isn't where it's supposed to be, but I hope whatever it is, you can figure it out and fix it...!

Maybe more 'close-up' photos, or with a white background or brighter light, might help some of us old geezers see it better.
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I still dont see it. It looks like a normal Miroku/Winchester '73 to me. The trigger block safety on mine hangs down just as far when the action is open. And the bolt extention had a tab that is part of the out of battery (or whatever they call it) safety that they added on the new Mirokus. From the two pictures I've seen here the gun appears fine.


I dont have mine available to take a picture right now but here are a few I found online:
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Yes but it won't go the other way.... Stuck.
I'll hopefully take a look at it this weekend, something is jammed somewhere.
I understand black powder is rough inside but letting it sit for 2 days then failing wouldn't make it suitable for the west ;)
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David wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:47 am
Yes but it won't go the other way.... Stuck.
I'll hopefully take a look at it this weekend, something is jammed somewhere.
I understand black powder is rough inside but letting it sit for 2 days then failing wouldn't make it suitable for the west ;)
Ok,
so you shot it with black powder 45lc. The 45lc are notorious for blowby so you probably have a bunch of fouling in and around the carrier block. Your best bet is to spray it with hot soapy water to loosen the fouling. Once its free keep flushing until it runs clear. Personally I use Windex general purpose clean. This is the clear stuff and has a slight bit of vinegar in it. The acidity of the vinegar helps neutralize the salts in the BP fouling. Once it runs clear flush it out with BC Gunscrub or AutoZone brake parts cleaner. Then spray it down with your fav gun oil. It's best to take the buttstock off to do this.

On a side note, I had a feller bring one in that he had done the same thing, BP 45lc's. Except his stuck the firing pin in the forward position and when he slammed it closed the protruding firing pin pre-detonated the round with the lever not fully up. Slapped his fingers pretty hard. Hard enough to bend the lever.
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