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Shingles Vaccine

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Had it two days ago. My arm is still almost useless and I am sick as a dog. Per the paperwork supplied and a call to the Dr. "this is normal and to be expected". Why don't they tell you about this stuff BEFORE you get the vaccine?
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Re: Shingles Vaccine

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I had the first one last November. Boy it hurt for a few days. I am now overdue for the follow-up "new and improved" Shingrix.
Having seen my father die of H1N1 and pneumonia with shingles in his mouth -- after having had a bad shingles episode about 10 years before -- I'll take the pain. Just haven't wanted to go in and get a shot while this virus is on the loose.
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Doctors pretty much only hear one side of the vaccine pros and cons, and it of course comes from the vaccine manufactures, and the various professional organizations to receive funding or advertising dollars from those manufacturers.

And in many, if not most, cases the doctors paycheck literally depends on compliance with ‘quality metrics’ :roll: that depend on how many vaccines they give and so on. That is why I would never see a doctor who is an employee of a hospital or an HMO, unless there were no alternative. At least as a physician myself I might be able to reason with them and talk them out of blindly following protocols designed by insurance companies and big Pharma.
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Doc is being very gutsy here in a calm measured way.
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My doctor is a day younger than me. He told me that the first shot would feel like someone hit your shoulder with a 2x4 and you would have some mild flu like symptoms for about 2 days. He said the 2nd shot would be very minor to no discomfort.

He was 100% correct.

My wife just had her first and she had the same side effects.

I know of 2 people that have permanent nerve pain from shingles. A couple of days of discomfort is well worth it.


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If Shingles comes from the chickenpox virus still in your system, why not just get a chickenpox vaccine instead as a booster?
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I'm ready, and willing to take the Covid vaccine. I had a SAR about five years ago that I got on an airline, gave to my Mom (probably)...eventually led to her demise, and wrecked my lungs to this day. Medicine don't scare me none.
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My experience has been no symptoms in shot area, fever, flu symptoms for 3 days after both shots and there is absolutely no residual immunity from effects from first shot. It either knocks you on your *** both times or it doesn’t. And I have not spoken to a single person that has had a different experience. Wife is an RN, pharmacist has been a friend for 30 years and had same Dr. which is a neighborhood guy last 10 years as my Doc
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I got fussed at by an employer for telling patients what to expect.
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I had chicken pox at 14 or 15, it's a horrible experience.

I'm pushing 72 years of age.

I had an injection at 70yrs of age for shingles.

Single injection, very fine needle. No side effects.

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If you had the one injection shingles, that's the old one. Nowhere near as effective as the new one.

Please do your research, old one about 51% effective, new one 90%

I've had them both. Second one, was out of sorts for a bit, but nothing dramatic.
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"If you had the one injection shingles, that's the old one. Nowhere near as effective as the new one.

Please do your research, old one about 51% effective, new one 90%

I've had them both. Second one, was out of sorts for a bit, but nothing dramatic."

I'll inquire at the doctor, on Monday.

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Old one was in the back of the arm just under the skin. The new one is a set of 2 shots in the deltoid muscle. Most people get some soreness. Feeling bad for a couple of days is common. Taking tylenol and using an icepack can help if it hurts. It often burns as it is being injected.
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To my recollection, before I was given the shingles vaccine I had to sign 3 forms acknowledging that my arm was going to hurt like crazy after the shot, among other things. All 3 of those forms were correct...
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They gave me a three page handout "after" the injection. I probably would have done it anyway, but it's much better to be upfront with folks.
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My first shot wasn't bad but the second one really hurt for several days. I had my shot recommended to me by my ophthalmologist because of shingles getting in my eye. He isn't working for an hmo or hospital but highly recommended it because of shingles getting in my eye.
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I took the new Shingles vac. which was in 2 parts given a few months apart, if I remember correctly, about 2 years ago. My arm might have hurt a little for a day or two, but I don't remember it being that big a deal, or I would have remembered it and I don't really.
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I had shingles about 7 yrs ago, luckily I went to the doctor and was treated early on. I had the new shots 6mos ago, believe me the shot pain is nothing compared to shingles Get the shots if you've had the measles.
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I'm NOT totally 'anti-vaccine', but just to fully educate yourselves from both 'sides' of the issue, you all might want to read this book....
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Nickn10 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:57 pm
I had shingles about 7 yrs ago, luckily I went to the doctor and was treated early on. I had the new shots 6mos ago, believe me the shot pain is nothing compared to shingles Get the shots if you've had the measles.
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Nickn10 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:57 pm
I had the new shots 6mos ago, believe me the shot pain is nothing compared to shingles Get the shots
I had a very mild case of Shingles ~3 years ago -- darn glad it was only 5 small spots in one small group; I can't imagine the pains my late aunt had who had it around the waist and on both shoulders.

Then I completed the series of both shots 2 months ago, and -- knock on wood -- I didn't have any issues with either one.

Get. The. Shots.

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piller wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:25 pm
Nickn10 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:57 pm
I had shingles about 7 yrs ago, luckily I went to the doctor and was treated early on. I had the new shots 6mos ago, believe me the shot pain is nothing compared to shingles Get the shots if you've had the measles.
You mean Chicken Pox.
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Nickn10 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:15 pm
piller wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:25 pm
Nickn10 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:57 pm
I had shingles about 7 yrs ago, luckily I went to the doctor and was treated early on. I had the new shots 6mos ago, believe me the shot pain is nothing compared to shingles Get the shots if you've had the measles.
You mean Chicken Pox.
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I had some soreness in the arm with each of the two shots, and that was the extent of it.
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KWK wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:50 am
I had some soreness in the arm with each of the two shots, and that was the extent of it.
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I do. I just wanted to let others get a feel for the odds.
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OK. I think about a year or even further back I had the first of the double shots for the shingles. Then we got sick.... The pharmacist at that time said I should wait for a while before getting that second shot. I can't remember the time frame. The question is Should I start all over and get the first shot again or do I just need to get the 2nd shot?

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I'm not a doctor, and I never played on on TV. My suggestion is to ask a Doctor.
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Mrs. YK and I had them in 2019. Both the first and second shots hurt like heck, but the first was worse for me while the second was worse for her. Our problem was the lack of availability last year; took forever for the shots to come in. We were on a waiting list for quite some time. Well worth it though.
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I had shingles about 15 years ago...what a major PITA! Had 10 squares and the temperature must have been near 100. ---6
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J Miller wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:51 pm
OK. I think about a year or even further back I had the first of the double shots for the shingles. Then we got sick.... The pharmacist at that time said I should wait for a while before getting that second shot. I can't remember the time frame. The question is Should I start all over and get the first shot again or do I just need to get the 2nd shot?

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If it has been more than a year, you need to start over. Around 9 months is still within the realistic time frame for the second shot. 9 to 12 months is getting a little close to probably needing to start over. Double check with your Doctor.
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piller wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 pm
J Miller wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:51 pm
OK. I think about a year or even further back I had the first of the double shots for the shingles. Then we got sick.... The pharmacist at that time said I should wait for a while before getting that second shot. I can't remember the time frame. The question is Should I start all over and get the first shot again or do I just need to get the 2nd shot?
If it has been more than a year, you need to start over. Around 9 months is still within the realistic time frame for the second shot. 9 to 12 months is getting a little close to probably needing to start over. Double check with your Doctor.
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