.348 load data..220gn Barnes

[guido4198]

I kinda messed up and in 5-7 business days I'll be the proud owner of 50 Barnes 220 gn JSP bullets. Checked Barnes website and the only loads they show are with powders I don't own. Looking for whatever experience folks here might be able to share. These will be used in a Win 71.
I've done well in the past with Hornady 200's, but can't get those right now.
Thanks.

[Sixgun]

Mr. Guido,
This is from a Lyman manual from the early fifties......when men were men and women were glad of it.

Cut the difference between the 200 and the 250 gr......drop a grain or two to be on the safe side. Remember, an elk or deer is not going to notice the difference between 2200 or 2400.

Shoot what the most accurate is and what's easiest on your brass and........your Model 71.-------6

[guido4198]

Thank you.
Your post reminded me that I can get a lot of possibilities from my old Lyman manuals. I have the one you posted, and a few more as well.
To be honest though, what I'm hoping is that someone will jump in with a tried and true load in a Win M71 for me.
With only 50 of those overpriced 220's coming, I'd really like to have a proven starting point or I'll wind up shooting them all up just doing load testing and development.

[vancelw]

PM your email to me and I'll send you a spreadsheet full of .348 loads I got off of the guys here.

I used the 220 gr Barnes to kill a mule deer in 2010. IMR 4064 52.0 gr. Can't put my hands on the chrono data right now....

[Yodar]

Hi Sixgun,

The following is from Handloader Magazine issue number 214 (Dec.-Jan.2002) page 34 to 39 by Steve Gash:

Winchester cases and WLR primers used in constructing the following loads for the .348 WCF. Testing was done using a Browning Model 71.

220 grain Barnes Flat Point, 56.0 grains of IMR-4350, MV=2267 fps
220 grain Barnes Flat Point, 57.0 grains of IMR-4350, MV=2333 fps
220 grain Barnes Flat Point, 61.0 grains of RL-19, MV= 2305 fps
220 grain Barnes Flat Point, 63.0 grains of RL-19, MV= 2354 fps
220 grain Barnes Flat Point, 56.5 grains of W-760, MV=2326 fps
220 grain Barnes Flat Point, 57.5 grains of W-760, MV=2368 fps
220 grain Barnes Flat Point, 63.0 grains of XMR-3100, MV=2321 fps

Have fun and be careful.

[Sixgun]

Yodar,
You da man....I can use that info myself. Thanks bro.-----the 6

[BigSky56]

AA #2 manual lists aa5744 28.8 to 32 grs for 2027 fps and aa4350 53.1 to 59 grs for 2402 fps with a 220 barnes check AA online load data. I have used aa4350 & IMR 4895 for 200&250 gr loads. IMR 4895 is the most accurate powder Ive used for the 200 hdy FP 3/4" group at 100, aa4350 gave me 11/2-2" groups with the hdy and Beartooth 245 HCGC. danny

[guido4198]

I've gotten a lot of GREAT information and responses. THANK YOU to all who have provided their experiences.
Looking it all over brings up one more question:
How "interchangeable" have you found Accurate powders to be with IMR..??
Specifically, the ones designated 4350 and 4064.
I've never used Accurate powders, but they are pretty available around these parts, while my "Old School" IMR favorites are REALLY hard to come by and it turns out that I don't have enough of the ones I do own to fully work out a load for these new bullets.
Grrr...this is turning out to be an expensive error.
Oh well....I'll just chalk it up to a learning experience, stop whining, and get it done.
Thanks Again guys.

[vancelw]

... these new bullets.
Grrr...this is turning out to be an expensive error.
:

Did you actually have a choice? When I bought my 71, the 220 gr Barnes original bullets were all I could find. That's why I have a load for them. Since then, I've been able to accumulate (hoard) quite a few Hornady bullets.

I use a lot of AA powder, but don't know how it interchanges with others. I have tried (oh, how I have tried) to limit my selection of powders, but it hasn't worked out that way. I did make a rookie mistake once and use IMR4198 in place of H4198 once. Luckily, it worked out okay. I went back looking for my data and couldn't find the book it was in and realizeded my error. Whew.

[BigSky56]

AA powders are pretty good and as they can get to us by truck from Canada instead of a boat from europe and Australia, it is the direction I am moving to because in talking to a powder representative the ship carriers have been cut back to one sea container from 4 per ship for safety concerns. AA 5744, 2495, 4064 and 4350 are extruded powders which I prefer and would cover most rifle calibers. danny