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Re: 3 string cigar box guitars

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Ray, I love it. I am going to share this with my grandkids if that's alright with you.
I think your guitar is fretted, is this correct? It sounds great.

Mine is fretless so I can confuse myself better. It is strung very high, like a dulcimer, if they are strung very high. It's a consequence of the stick-on-top construction method. I used a digital electronic tuner to "tune" it and my wife with perfect relative pitch commented that it needed to be tuned. I promise not to sing out loud in anyone's hearing, if I can avoid it.


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Fretted......

Was gDG & tuned the D down to B and the G down to E......

moved the bridge back towards the tailpiece about 3/8ths inch to tighten the slack....

didn't have to do that as strings are plenty tight after slackening......

they must have been mandolin tight two whole steps up from where they are now.....

I think this is the one heard playing.....

https://www.cbgitty.com/cigar-box-guita ... y-to-play/
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Hey grizz !

Check this out.....

You can never go wrong with Amazing Grace.....


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GMd4IKB3l34
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yeah! good one for sure.

the neck on my new box is bending enough that it doesn't stay tuned overnight. so I get to mod it with an external truss rod on the back of the neck.
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Ray, I dropped the tuning to EBE, the neck responded by getting a little less dished. Methinks the worker-bee oriented the ash grain in the wrong direction, or it's just a pool noodle to begin with.

But I like open E a lot, it sounds less like a cloud of flying insects .. . . :lol:
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Grizz wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:51 am
Ray, I dropped the tuning to EBE, the neck responded by getting a little less dished. Methinks the worker-bee oriented the ash grain in the wrong direction, or it's just a pool noodle to begin with.

But I like open E a lot, it sounds less like a cloud of flying insects .. . . :lol:

I close my eyes and imagine the smell of the pacific ocean, dungeness boiling, and hear this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rims ... blebee.oga
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Ray, that's hilarious. but with a little stretch can you imagine the entire flight off-key :?:
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I like this g b e tuning so much now, I got a chinese six string banjo that is going to the luthier tomorrow to see if he can whittle a new bridge and nut for three pairs, either redundant mandolin style or reentrant 12 string guitar style as he sees fit.

The correct number of tuners are already there so it is just a matter of geometry to get the spacing right. A higher bridge will help me from scrubbing the skin when picking fast.

A .034" for the g and a .010 wlld g string from a banjo set paired together reentrantly might give it some twang but I think the b and e will have to be paired redundantly.
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Re: 3 string cigar box guitars

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this g b e
1 - 3 - 5 ? a full cord ?
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Grizz wrote:
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this g b e
1 - 3 - 5 ? a full cord ?
high three from a standard guitar which is ead(gbe)..... all three played open at once is an pseudo Em chord.....the buttons you press to play guitar chords are the same just ignoring the ead strings which are absent.
41_BanjoChords4DTuning_2ed_450.jpg
ignore the d string......the old d chords on the gbe strings will still be the same.
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OK! a three legged banjo eh? that's easy listening and singing truth is the best kind...

my box is EBE right now, and the noodle neck likes the looser tension. replaced the bridge with a wood nut, which lowered the action a lot. this makes it a little quieter, but also mellow. just won't work well with lots of ambient engine noise, like at take-off... thanks for the cord chart. my box is fretless, so I only get slide sounds. I listened to it for a while today and somehow the key of E suits me, although I can't figure out what it's good for. I crack myself up sometimes.

thanks for the input and samples
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B.T.T.

More g b e tuned cigar box.....

It is said that a somewhat bourbon buzzed john wayne inspired the creation of this song.....

Pardon the c.o.p.d. wheezing attempt at crooning.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tdM9qqhWmTE
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Hell, i can barely whistle
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Nice, Ray. Merry Christmas!
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B.T.T.

More experiments with a g-b-e tuned cigar box.

The chord progression is a sped-up version of "wayfaring stranger".....sort of bouncing dark and somber Am off of an Em brightened-up with Cmaj and Dmaj. The lyrics are old Hank's most famous song.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=db0dd2xc2To
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Ray wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:57 pm
B.T.T.

More experiments with a g-b-e tuned cigar box.

The chord progression is a sped-up version of "wayfaring stranger".....sort of bouncing dark and somber Am off of an Em brightened-up with Cmaj and Dmaj. The lyrics are old Hank's most famous song.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=db0dd2xc2To
good one ! i saw that same light too! but i can't play the gitar for nothing. is yours fretted?

have to get one with a fret board and lower strings. can't make a sounds with a slide, just noise. mi bad.
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Grizz wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:32 pm
Ray wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:57 pm
B.T.T.

More experiments with a g-b-e tuned cigar box.

The chord progression is a sped-up version of "wayfaring stranger".....sort of bouncing dark and somber Am off of an Em brightened-up with Cmaj and Dmaj. The lyrics are old Hank's most famous song.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=db0dd2xc2To
good one ! i saw that same light too! but i can't play the gitar for nothing. is yours fretted?

have to get one with a fret board and lower strings. can't make a sounds with a slide, just noise. mi bad.
Fretted. Originally meant to be tuned open g-d-g but I never could get it to work slided with either tool socket or shot glass. I slacked the d to b and the tightened higher g to e and started chording. Standard guitar tuning minus the fat e, a, and d strings. The chords are easy one and two fingered. Can't seem to figure out the b's though. Octagon help me figure the various "b's" just using the high g, b, e strings !
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Anticipating tomorrow morning.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vFtUUQCux1s

I even tried to sing it once.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ykzaQdONsEc
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Re: 3 string cigar box guitars

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Thanks! i tuned my bass like the 3 string but can't find the amp, so don't know how what that sounds like . . .

i expect to get heavenly music lessons someday, but may still sound like an oak tree hit by lightning . . .

thanks for posting the links
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