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Did I miss a posting about Jeff Bridges being cast as Rooster Cogburn in the, now in production, remake of True Grit?
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That's what they're sayin, although I could do With Out Matt Damon..!

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What a shame!

Too bad they didn't find a good actor who isn't some sort of liberal wienie.
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Here's who they got for Mattie Ross

Personally, I think Glen Cambell was the weakest, worst actor they could have found to play a toughman in a western, and I think he tainted the film. Surely, Damon will be able to play a better part, regardless of his politics.

I've never read the book, didn't even know it was taken from a book. For those of you who've read it, what's the difference? Will there be more shootin and violence than in the original movie? I like the Coen's work, I bet they'll do it justice. They just need to work Tommy Jones and Duval in there somewhere.
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I'd have to say that Trie Grit the movie followed the book pretty closely. In fact, much of the dialog was lifte straight from the book.
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Next thing you know they'll try to re-write the Bible... oh never mind.
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Doc Hudson wrote:What a shame!

Too bad they didn't find a good actor who isn't some sort of liberal wienie.
Are you kidding?? There ain't such an animal 'cause they're all liberal wienies!
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TRUE GRIT was first serialized in the Saturday Evening Post, back when I was a kid. My grandmother had a subscription, and I remember reading the story in its installments. Couldn't wait for the next issue...

Several of the vignette illustrations accompanying the tale pre-saged the Duke's appearance in the movie.
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I watched True Grit again this weekend. While Glen Cambell was far from great he rates about 10 times higher than that girl they had in there. I realize they wanted annoying but taking it so far as to make the movie almost unwatchable was a little much.

As for the new movie only time will tell. Experience leads me to believe that it will be unwatchable too. Remakes always are. I tried watching the remake of Angel and the Badman this weekend. I kinda like both Lou Diamond Philips and Luke Perry and had serious issues with the original movie so I didn't figure they could do it much harm. I was wrong. I turned it off 1/2 hour in.

They never have made a bearable remake of Stagecoach and the Red River remake was bad too. 3:10 to Yuma remake was a joke. Shall I go on............. :lol:

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I know that many in Hollywood don't think that John Wayne was much of an actor. I happen to like his acting and his movies. I am not planning on seeing another re-make of one of his movies. In the best Westerns I remember seeing, the violence was there as part of the story, not as the whole story. It was not gratituitous. If the acting and the plot cannot carry the movie without throwing in violence like Mike Tyson throws punches, then it isn't worth seeing.
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piller wrote:I know that many in Hollywood don't think that John Wayne was much of an actor. I happen to like his acting and his movies.

Perhaps you've forgotten, but The Duke won an Academy Award for True Grit, his only win and I believe only his second nomination.

I agree, John Wayne was a helluva lot better actor than the critics would have us think.
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deerwhacker444 wrote:Here's who they got for Mattie Ross

Personally, I think Glen Cambell was the weakest, worst actor they could have found to play a toughman in a western, and I think he tainted the film. Surely, Damon will be able to play a better part, regardless of his politics.

I've never read the book, didn't even know it was taken from a book. For those of you who've read it, what's the difference? Will there be more shootin and violence than in the original movie? I like the Coen's work, I bet they'll do it justice. They just need to work Tommy Jones and Duval in there somewhere.
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BruceB wrote: Mr. Duval was in the original as "Lucky" Ned Pepper.
Yeah, it would be cool to bring him back. Also get in Dennis Hopper before his cancer gets him.
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For those that harumph that they won't even "see a remake," etc.--as others have said, it's not like all of the original Grit (and others') casting was stellar. And pray tell what are you suggesting we all watch (of "new" western material) out there? Yuma wasn't a stellar piece either, but far from garbage...but it was a worthwhile (re)yarn. The lighting (low angle/winter?) was a little dark, and especially the dumb*** wienie (aaarrghh!) main "good guy" character was afflicted with terrible badjudgmentitis, but it was an enterntaining movie - worthy at least of a rental. Heck yeah I'd see Bridges and Damon. Why not - even if for curiosity alone? Yes, Campbell was really bad (and he's even said so), but a great song. Hope they use him again at least for that!


Don't mean to hijack to another movie, but on the record, Appaloosa movie was a great, plodding disapppointment--had such promise. Ironic in that Ed Harris really seemed to revel in the detail; just forgot to tell a decent yarn! Sure had enough film time to do it better. End of rant.

+1 on bring Duvall and a few others back--whether in Grit or something else--before they can't do this stuff anymore.
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Can anyone think of any remake that was better than the original?

I always thought Cary Grant was great in An Affair to Remember (one of my wife's favorite tear jerkers) but then I saw the original, Love Affair, which I thought was even better. And that remake was done by the same director as the original! Charles Boyer puts Cary Grant to shame.

I don't know why it should be, but I can't think of a single remake that was better than the original (not counting silent films). Perhaps in the old days, the filmcraft was so primitive that the actors actually had to act, to compensate. These days, just throw in a lot of special effects.
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Good points. I can't even think of m(any) sequels. I know a lot of people that will beat their chests about Godfather II, but to me "I" was #1.
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Marion Morrison was a wonderful actor. He played one of our favorite characters - John Wayne - in every movie.
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deerwhacker444 wrote:That's what they're sayin, although I could do With Out Matt Damon..!

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I don't think the Duke was the best actor, but he was without a doubt the greatest actor of all time, no one else even comes close as they say he's got the stats. As he always said he didn't act he just played himself and isn't that what we all wanted.
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Doc Hudson wrote:What a shame!

Too bad they didn't find a good actor who isn't some sort of liberal wienie.
I agree that it would be best to find a good actor but what do his personal philosophies have to do with acting skills for this roll?
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gak wrote:Good points. I can't even think of m(any) sequels. I know a lot of people that will beat their chests about Godfather II, but to me "I" was #1.
Rooster Cogburn and the Lady was pretty darned good IMO. Kate Hepburn and The Duke struck some mighty fine sparks from each other even if both were past 70 at the time.

Otherwise, I can't disagree to strenuously about sequels.
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2571 wrote:
Doc Hudson wrote:What a shame!

Too bad they didn't find a good actor who isn't some sort of liberal wienie.
I agree that it would be best to find a good actor but what do his personal philosophies have to do with acting skills for this roll?
I just hate to spend money that will support liberal wienies when I can avoid it by staying home.

For example, I don't watch anything with Barbara Streisand or Hanoi Jane Fonda, or Sean Penn.

They might be great actors, but I detest their politics and don't wish to put money in their pockets, or add to their fame/infamy.

FWIW, the only Hanoi Jane show I'd watch would be a live TV broadcast of her execution for treason.
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Two of the worst remakes in my interest sphere were "Gone In Sixty Seconds", and "Vanishing Point". I won't even comment how bad they were. Well, yes I will! GISS (1) was filmed with REAL cars, no CGI, real people, (non actor extras) and for the most part, played much better for me. Yes, I know some of the acting was atrocious, but you watched the film for the realtime driving more than the script. GISS (2) was cut, slicked up and CGI'd to perfection. Boring, Boring!
VP had no GCI and everything was done in real time with real cars and real actors. Changing the lead character from a pill popping ex cop, ex race driver, loser, to a sweet young man trying to get to his wife, changed the whole concept of the film, in my opinion.
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Doc, I gotta disagree with you on one thing, Jane Fonda was never a great actress. You can make a case for the other two but Hanoi Jane would have never broke into the business had it not been for her last name. As for a remake of True Grit, I'd support almost any western that comes out because I wish there were more of them made. If Hollywood would put out some good ones instead of junk like Hot-Tub Timemachine maybe our children would watch'em and ask for a levergun for Christmas instead of a X-Box 360 and a I-pod . Rant over. :D .....Dave
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I will certainly see the new version of True Grit, but I hope it matains the dialog as it has a ring of period speech. I think Bridges can pull it off, but I would like to see Boss Spears in that role.

Like others I first read True Grit when it appeared serial in the Saturday evening post. It was not published in book form until later.

Saturday Evening Post, published a number of books that were later made into good movies. The Horatio Hornblower sea adventures and The Unforgiven. The later was another Western made into a 1960 movies with Lancaster and Audie Murphy.

Wayne was way under rated as an actor. He produced some fine work. His 1956 "The Searchers" was the very best and was his favorite as well. The character he played was very complex in spite of his superficial toughness. He was a man with deamons, but you never met them face to face.
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DDdDave,

I said they 'might be great actors." I [didn't say size=200]I[/size] thought they were great actors.

I agree with you about Hanoi Jane and her brother Peter too. As for Sean Penn, I don't know how that ugly little bugger ever got on screen in the first place.
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I don't think that Tom Selleck is a liberal wienie and I do think he's a pretty convincing actor. :)
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Old Savage wrote:Marion Morrison was a wonderful actor. He played one of our favorite characters - John Wayne - in every movie.
Having met him on a coupla occasions, & then interviewed with the Man for a job... I can honestly say, truer words were never spoken. A helluva man, acting wasn't involved.
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Griff wrote:
Old Savage wrote:Marion Morrison was a wonderful actor. He played one of our favorite characters - John Wayne - in every movie.
Having met him on a coupla occasions, & then interviewed with the Man for a job... I can honestly say, truer words were never spoken. A helluva man, acting wasn't involved.
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Batman1939 wrote:I don't think that Tom Selleck is a liberal wienie and I do think he's a pretty convincing actor. :)
IMNSHO, Tom Selleck and Robert Duval are the two best actors in Western Movies now working!
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Doc Hudson wrote:
Batman1939 wrote:I don't think that Tom Selleck is a liberal wienie and I do think he's a pretty convincing actor. :)
IMNSHO, Tom Selleck and Robert Duval are the two best actors in Western Movies now working!
My wife vehemently disagrees with you. She figures that when Tom Selleck grows up, he might be as good as Sam Elliot. She holds about as much hope for Tom "growin' up", as she does for me.
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