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mickbr

Always envious when I hear about your BHA .500 doc

Do you run reloads or factory?

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Im inclined not to care whats stamped on the gun in this case as a357 can fire 38 and a 44mag can fire 44 special. Whether they feed them well comes down to more than what the gun is stamped with anyway since a particular lever gun will have its own idea of what COAL and nose profiles it likes. On a...

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thanks fellas I am reading similar. Clean burning and bookloads tend towards the warm side. Will chrony some 240xtp in the rossi 92 and report.

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anyone with an axe to grind about hunting only need google animal experimentation. when they fix that hell on earth they can start worrying about something as natural as hunting an animal. Some of it is medically useful but a lot of it is science for sciences sake. vivisection and outsourcing to 3rd...

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I have some and it's super clean burning but it is not equivalent to H110 ... I think it's just an unfortunate numbering. I believe it's a bit faster than 2400 or H110 so you'll need to load down from where you might load those two. I also have some of their N105 ... which is in a good spot for Hor...

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Thanks and wow, 26.5grains behind a 200 jsp for 1750fps in a pistol barrel. 22.1 grains behind a 240 jacketed for 1541fps. If that matches reality then in a carbine that load would be pushing over 1900fps.... Last but not least 20.2 grains behind a 300 xtp for 1374fps! Looks like most these loads ar...

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i picked up 8lb of this from a fella getting out of pistol shooting. Dont know much about it, looks to be similar or bit faster than regular 110/win 296 off reports. Anyone used it before? I was looking to run some 240-300 grain XTP in my 44mag and was hoping to get a little heavier loads than allia...

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i'm with Grizz on this. We are way past socialism or left vs right. In fact we only started using the terms left and right again the last few years. The media dusted them off from where we left them in the 70's and put them in the average mans mouth again and now he runs about saying it like he neve...

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I took some water in the basement and some 38 special remingtont UMC factory ammo probably sat in about 2 inches of water for 2 hours without my realizing. Water was cleared but only recovered ammo from the wet packets 3 days later. Verdict gents? Is it likely to fire, misfire, hangfire. Better off ...

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Docs post on cherishing families made me think about time spent talking to older folk throughout my life. What is the oldest or earliest born person you spoke to and do you remember what you spoke abou? Im turning 50 in a year so older than a few here but younger than others. As a small child in the...

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Good post Doc. I like to visit older relatives too. My grandfathers cousin turned 98 back in 2017 or so. Id never met him but sought him out and glad I did as he told me stories about my family I didnt know. My other grandfather just turned 99 and I visited with him recently as well. He was telling ...

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worth noting that not all 'gold dots' are created equal. short barrel revolver versions which the OP refers ( 135grain in 38 and 200grain in 44 special fpr the record) are designed to expand under 900fps and will fragment to pieces over 1200-1300. Regular gold dots are much tougher, essentially a di...

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Thanks JimT, I will work up to that load and chrony it in the rossi

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Hi gents, anyone have links to higher pressure loads( up to lever action level) in 44 special brass preferably with 2400 powder. Any bullet weights 200-240+ grains, JHP and cast. Purpose is two extra shots in the magazine of my rossi 92. Starline says their brass is good for lever action pressures.

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No problem using 135 gold dots in my previous lever actions. ( 3 x rossi 357).They have a very generous HP. Though i dont have any laying about from memory the hole is large enough that i doubt any material would contact a primer in front? I have never been concerned with any standard FN, SP or HP b...

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Here is one scenario that I have been working toward ...... I have a Win. BB94 .444, a Winchester 94 .44 mag, a Browning B92 .44 mag, a Ruger SBH .44 mag and a Navy Arms 44-40 that all shoot the .429- .430 bullets. I use various jacketed bullets in them, but I have been thinking about getting a few...

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jeepnik wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:46 am Ten years old. Proving that old threads and even older levergunners never die.

Unfortunately the link to the article died in that time, resurrecting it to see if Doc has an alternative source for it.

mickbr

Hi Doc, old thread of yours here on an interesting subject. Wondered if you might know an alternative link or source for the article as the link is now dead.

mickbr

informative post Jim, thanks

mickbr

I had been very lucky to date, 4 rossi rifles in both 357 and 44 mag over the years had digested specials as well as their full length magnum cases. Just picked up a 44mag with 24" barrel and was dissappointed my 44 special cast loads( RNFP) werent making to to the chamber. Well I guess it was ...

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I am a veteran and worked several 3rd world countries after. The issue in my opinion is the drug protocols they put people on when they get back. In the day you deployed, you came back tired, cranky, whatever, needed time to readjust to the family or kids whatever, they called it 'deployment fatigue...

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I wish Costeve's posts on this subject could be posted all across the internet. Hear all too often the old "maximum velocity is reached in16"of barrel" schtick and the ballistics by the inch guys get quoted the most often. As mentioned slow burning magnum powders in pistol carts can c...

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Bryan Austin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:21 am
what are your groups at 125 to 135 yards?

I run the same in my Marlin 1894CB for the 44-40.

About 4". Okay but want to get a little better with 240xtp handloads.

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I rarely use marlinforums but mentioning cast boolits I had one profile banned over there a few years back. Over an argument about a fella who spent 100k on some high level gun auction. One mod started altering my posts. i complained and next I logged on I got a message saying I was banned and the r...

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I said here just 4 year ago, when they started inventing the LGBTQ stuff, where a man could say he is a woman, that if they can pull that sort of nonsense off, they can and probably will do anything. When it comes to truth justice and liberty folks brush over the first term truth to get to the other...

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personally I feel the media and folks reactions are worse than the war. Those countries have been at each other for over half a century, there are a dozen wars occuring on the african continenet as well, and rebel insurgencies across the half the globe. Previously we called this 'news' and went abou...

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I only own 2 centrefires, a 223 wby vanguard and a Rossi 92 in 44 mag which does the most work. For subsonics I run 200gn gold dots, they are about the the lowest velocity expanding bullet around, down to 800's fps impact. Also have my 'SMG load' for around the homestead which equates to original 44...

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happy birthday paco. I dont know you personally, and am only a recent joinee to the forums, but I like your style of article on guns and calibre development, much like reading Keith and P.O ackley.

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i too do a lot of subsonic work but as others have suggested, you need to get shooting and chronying with your gun, instead of critiquing the quality of replies. All the info has been presented. I remember when I was chasing subsonic info I actually went along to a cowboy action meet and listended a...

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I looked at both, always prefer longer barrels personally. Less blast

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Youre basically shooting stout-ish cowboy action loads and those guys mostly use the fastest pistol and shotguns powders. Loads with any of the following like Clays, Bullseye, WST, Trailboss, Red Dot and win-231 are all going to get you there more or less the same way. As some of the folks above su...

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Needs a better perimeter and visibility. Porous property by the looks with foliage obscuring views of dead ground- looks like they emerged from a gully or lower level behind the entry point. Puts way too much pressure on reaction time. I'd be erecting a fence and making some landscaping changes or m...

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Youre basically shooting stout-ish cowboy action loads and those guys mostly use the fastest pistol and shotguns powders. Loads with any of the following like Clays, Bullseye, WST, Trailboss, Red Dot and win-231 are all going to get you there more or less the same way. As some of the folks above sug...

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great peice of history there Bill.

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The squabble between 2 ex soviet dumps, neither even a top 10 economy and its effect world economy, supply, price of living is IMHO a work even Vince Macmahon from the WWE would be proud of. What I see happening is a range of excuses money is leaving the worlds middle class at an astonishing rate an...

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Thanks fellas, a forum needs a good redneck project every once in a while. All I need now is some personal engraving on the stock and to give the gun a name- just kidding. :) I took it out for a shoot yesterday. So the 200xtp Hornady factory load at 100 yards grouped around 2", best group I hav...

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thanks Scott. It looks funny yep but having a 6'8" wingspan this about the most comfortable I have felt behind a small lever action. Easier to fast work the lever SSAA style. I'm testing 200 xtp at about 1300fps which is about my limit for staying on target so far. Or 1250 with 240's. I reckon ...

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Vortex crossfire 2-7x scope scout installed. To date, osram flashlight with remote tail switch Custom rail Custom true bubba level stock spacer and buttpad Its good for you learned folks to see the lower end of what can be done with a cheap lever and I hope sixgun is paying attention here :D https:/...

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does girding loins make them work better is what I want to know

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easy question for me, a 44 mag rossi 92. That and a 223 wby vanguard are my only centrefires and the 44 sees the most use. It handles hogs and other varmints from subsonics to full power loads.

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Hi fellas, any idea where the following fits into the general rossi timeline. Taurus stamped 44mag 24" stainless octagonal.

mickbr

yup there is but not sure what wood he used or stained it with. Im 6'3" but have a 6'8" wingspan so often have a problem with stocks.....and shirts!

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A buddy of mine removed the steel buttplate and added some LOP on my 44. Can run it more comfortably at speed on hogs now.

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Bridger wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:14 pm I’m looking forward to Sixgun’s review when they hit shelves!

mickbr

Anyone run real heavy bullets in their 44mags? I know its not real practical but have an urge to try some. Was even considering rebarreling a rossi 44mag to tight twist as a subsonic thumper. 400 grains is probably a case of diminishing returns but there is something intriguing about a pistol bullet...

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I dont shoot deer but shot hogs with a 357 mag rossi and158xtp. things fell over pretty fast out to 100 yards when bullet starts out at 1850-1900fps. I shot a few at close to 150 yards- as range gets out there they run further but retained velocity is still similar to some 357 pistol loads at muzzle...

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great thread and calibre.

mickbr

my second 357 needed serious thumb power to load until a smith friend of mine addressed a burr in the mag tube. The sharp load gate was also contributing to the issue. I left the springs tight on all of mine. Not sure if shortening them can affect loading but as mine disgested every COAL so well I d...

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I think it might be difficult finding what you are looking for in factory ammo. A soft cast HP at subsonic speeds will do what you want but not only will you need to reload, you will also need to cast your own bullets. Mould makers like MP-Molds and NOE should be able to provide the style of mould ...

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I also chase low velocities in 44 and formerly 357 magnum carbines for low noise. Light loads of fast burning powders I found 150-200fps was typical going from pistol to the carbine barrel . One surprise was the Remington UMC 38+P 125 SJHP which runs about 950fps from a pistol but chronied at just u...

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