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apparently,,, of sorts. Had a root canal stage 1 started couple weeks back, was unremarkable, came in today to get the canal opened again and re-sealed and the dentist decided not to start but referred me to a specialist as he said I had multiple canal legs instead of one and he didnt want to finish...

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Add a half days food dried food, currency and copies of ID to your list doc and it pretty much equates the grab bags we had on jobs in the 3rd world. Light, handy, so it makes weight/storage limits on rescue vehicles/airlifts, also semi-disposable since if your vehicle is broken into or you have to ...

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Fellas, how far back does it go? Also for someone in the late 19th century, if they didnt reload, was there a benefit to picking up expended brass? Is there a scenario it could it be sold back to a store for return to factories?

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nice one Scott. I started on a ruger 480 bolt action carbine project at one point but costs defeated me. A rossi 92 or ruger no.1 sure would have been nice to find.

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Thanks Bryan, great pics!

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Running some of my 44 special dummy rounds through the rossi for the first time, it functioned them as fast as I could work the lever. Was quite happy until I examined the bullets . Sure put some dents in the noses, significant bevel on most of the 200 grain gold dots, one almost collapsed the side ...

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Bryan, can I ask if there are any load data using 2400 powder to get to that HV power in rifle length barrels? I'm interested in this as it would also apply to a 44 mag rifle. Im looking at either running stout loads of unique or power pistol to get there, or lesser loads of 2400. Not sure how low 2...

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Hi bryan, thread is 13 years old but was resurrected by the aussie guy Preid a few posts up as he needed a powder substitute. Great info btw, I believe I actually quoted it including some of your results which were sent to me by ed harris. :) (Didnt realise you were on these forums until a couple da...

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Thanks Bryan, another good read!

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As I understand there were several improvements in metallurgy and action strength as the 1892's progressed and just wondered which original 1892's 44-40 can be fed with JHP?

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Fellas wondering how the HV loads for the 44-40 that came out in the early 1900's were viewed by hunters? By HV I mean the 1500fps odd loads with 200 grain bullets. Was the 44-40 still quite popular in this period and these loads considered great new medicine? Or was its popularity dropping off and...

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Im not a 44-40 shooter by the way, nor much of a caster. This was just research I was doing for a project one time.

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C.E harris the cast bullet expert once sent me data with printouts from the Hercules 1995 manual and Alliant 2005 manual showing 23.5 grains of Rel 7 behind a 240 grain cast for 1290fps in 44-40. Thats a 24"barrel and pressure was low, 12500 Cup. He said it was a consistent performer in his gun...

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Fellas wondering how the HV loads for the 44-40 that came out in the early 1900's were viewed by hunters? By HV I mean the 1500fps odd loads with 200 grain bullets. Was the 44-40 still quite popular in this period and these loads considered great new medicine? Or was its popularity dropping off and ...

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I have used that bullet on deer. I had it loaded in a 44-40 ahead of 10gr. of Unique for about 1500fps in a 20" carbine. I shot a couple deer with this load with excellent results. One was a nice 185lb 8pt at about 70 yards. I recovered the bullet from a small hemlock behind the deer. In retro...

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I really like the XTP bullet. But the only one I have used in the .44 mag is the 240 gr version. Lynn Thompson used the 300 grain version to great effect on small antelope and goats up to water buffalo. If the camera angle is right, you can see the bullet in flight. But they seem to do the trick fr...

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the way the world is going our grandkids may appreciate such documents better than anyone.

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Yes Rossis are still 1:30 in all calibres. Id personally love a faster twist on 1892's, just for slow loads with heavy bullets. Regards Taylors are they Italian made chiappas? I had a lot of problems with a chiappa, and the LGS I talked to said they dont even like stocking them. I remember also look...

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Just wondering if anyone has used this bullet on game in revolver or carbine? Any idea if it will be suitable for medium game at carbine speeds?

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Thanks fellas. Doc your guns were an inspiration to me early on these forums. I had fooled about looking at different calibres for a while. 357 did most of the work I needed, I only run 2-3 guns in my safe and found it hard to let go a 357 several times. This time once I had the 44 in my possession ...

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Not much I could do about it, it liked me I guess. Stainless 20", cycles 44 mag and specials. I let go one my 357 rossis and a spare 357 barrel I had to fund it. Now to get a rail mounted and a flashlight with remote pressure switch cabled tied under the mag tube so it fits in with my other cla...

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Yes he sure does some good tests. At 38 special velocities the other two great bullets are the speer 135gn GDHP and Remington 125 golden sabre. These will expand fully under 875fps impact, the Golden sabre slightly lower velocity than the GDHP too( about 850fps). The Remington 125 SJHP is a good one...

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better throw hornady into the mix as well

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Helping out a buddy with a 44 mag project who is interested to know how these brands stack up. I heard starline is the thickest( I use starline in 357 but not sure how it compares to the others), or are they close enough a load on one should still equal a load in another. Thanks for any opinions fel...

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Thanks fellas, I actually did find a few lbs cheap. I might grab it anyway

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Hi fellas, never used this powder. On the charts looks similar rate to 2400 but I dont see it on hodgons reloading data for 357 or 44. Is it obsolete maybe or just not suitable

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A friend told me about these, I hadnt heard of this config before- I see its got a 1:16 twist, not marlins normal 1:38". Any idea on what the barrels slug at and whether a brand new one would avoid the quality issues marlin had a while back?

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how does yours like 38 special JFE?

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This generation of young folk is going to do it as tough as any generation since the 50's( and hopefully not the 30's) I have a lot of respect for the people they are going to become.

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My R92 is 20" barrel, standard wood/blued and wears a bushnell red dot and flashlight with remote pressure switch. Being a Rossi Im not too concerned about it getting wet or dirty.

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1830fps with a 180gn WFN, that has some thump for a 357!

Also appears you are correct that As-30 is Clays https://forum.nosler.com/threads/adi-powders.22553/

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JFE wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 7:19 am

or just rebarrel the Browning. That way you can correct the bore, twist and throat.

What specs would you select if you were to go that route again JFE?

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nice one, the king of the 92 repros with tight barrel specs to boot.

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I might give this gun a miss I am thinking with that twist and bore size. Gee the 44 mag has several desirable attributes in a rifle ....but unfortunately they are all all spread across several different brands! If you want .429 bore, tight twist and quality the one that ticks the most boxes is a ub...

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Thanks fellas and I will post some pics up on the weekend, the fella is sending me some more. I was a bit disappointed in hearing it has a 1:38 as well. Well if I get it and decide I need to run 300 grain cast bullets I suppose I could have a tighter barrel done for it. No stranger to blowing money ...

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Thanks for the replies. So I dug up the following info. These came with .432 bore and 1:38 twist. Didnt realize 44's came in bores that large? Must not matter to accuracy with jacketed bullets at.430 and fellas reporting good shooting. My friend is having second thoughts, maybe getting a uberti shor...

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So a friend uncovered one of these for sale and wanted some information on them. I know the browning 357 was one of the best 1892 clones ever done. Did the 44mag enjoy the same reputation by this maker? I seem to remember it may not have.....could have that totally wrong, but I let my friend know I ...

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Thanks fellas and pilot error is quite possible. I use a red dot as open sights are a bit of stretch these days.

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ollogger wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 8:22 pm Well dont ever try to blow out your 300 H&H to 375 H&H with a charge of Unique & cream of wheat
while in the house, with the barrel in the garbage can

idiot ollogger

now that made me laugh

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Was range shootin some of these last weekend in my 357 rossi with bushnell red dot. Seemed to be getting 3 good shots around 2" at 75 yards but then a lower flier opening it to 4-6". Wasnt checking which shot the flier was and eyes not good enough to tell from way back there. Could it be t...

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I read about UK buck sizes in the old day. LG which was 6 to the ounce, must have been similar to 000 buck, SG which is about same as OO buck, SSG which is 16 pellets to the ounce which would make it somewhere between no2 and no.3 buck and AAA which is about the same as #4 from memory. LG .36"...

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largest game you would take with a 35 rem fellas?

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not trying to top your story scott but this might make you feel better. I once put a 416 rigby bolt into a 375HH rifle, both cz550's. This was over 20years ago when I could still fire such guns. I fired a round of 375 with the wrong bolt in, before realizing. No idea the ramifications of that act be...

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700fps is a decent jump

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I read about UK buck sizes in the old day. LG which was 6 to the ounce, must have been similar to 000 buck, SG which is about same as OO buck, SSG which is 16 pellets to the ounce which would make it somewhere between no2 and no.3 buck and AAA which is about the same as #4 from memory.

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When they invented this infinite gender choice stuff I knew we were in trouble, They can pull off the idea a man is a woman by the spoken word they can now say about anything, even re write history. Reason being that more important than justice and liberty is truth because its the language the first...

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Does a 357 and 35 rem lever combo make sense fellas as in adding to the game options or does the 35 just do the same thing better?

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anyone running a 35 rem fellas? Any experiences to share? I was wondering how this stacks up to 30-30, Im assuming its 'more gun'.

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I like it fine, the blank background would be good.

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Good job, keep going Griff. Ive never smoked but I had to quit salt a while ago for health reasons. My elderly mother quit smoking a few years back just for financial reasons. we were wondering how she would do being she had smoked since she was sixteen. She went cold turkey, said to me later on she...

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