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mickbr

I see a couple of 480 owners on this thread.

I was wondering if anyone had any good loads. Also wondered if anyone had any fullhouse loads chronied? Just curious as to what they case can do.

mickbr

nice work digging that up Scott. Ive been running a lot of internet searches on the 480 but thats the first id seen it.

mickbr

First photo gents. Nothing too exciting yet. Rustled up some 325 XTP bullets for the 480, cases or on the way. Shown sitting here between a 44 special dummy someone gave me for comparison and a 110gn XTP 357. Didnt realize just how BIG this calibre looks. Not quite the presence of the 500SW but 30% ...

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Found a smith who puts 480's in old mausers, (which I believe are some type of weird side lever'' action?). Would have loved to find a 480 ruger rossi one day or have the money for a BHA in 475 or 500 but at half the cost and the fact I am not getting any younger the bolt action got the vote. Not mu...

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Old no.7 is right about the term safes, most these days arent, they are lightweight security boxes. Real safes means 1/2" steel in the door and steel with concrete in the body. ratings go up from there. These old safes are still okay for what they are, they can be refurbed/resprayed nice and th...

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awesome looking guns but didnt uberti 45colts have problems with oversize chambers, blowby and accuracy? Im just going off what I read on Sass wire from time to time

mickbr

I am happy with my 2 x357 rossi. They did vary in finishing. The first one had a bevel scraping noses of bullets when loading the mag, lifter looked like melted plastic and extractor was beating up the case rims. That said it stiill fired every length 38 and 357 flawlessly. My next one fed just as w...

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Yep I'll only be running the loads I posted. That said I wouldnt have a problem running occasional factory 44mag in it. Uberti would have died under lawsuits by now if the guns were blowing up. Or rather the first time one did, the next production run would have said '44 special only'

mickbr

Ray came through for us. I had no idea it would be quite that high. But 1150 fps with a slug that heavy is certainly respectable. I have shot up to 16 gr of 2400 in this gun, but it was not as accurate with the bullet I was using as the 7.5 gr Unique load. Whats the noise like Scott, that would be ...

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black river smith wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:49 pm PS -- The Uberti 1873 is a very nice rifle action. But good luck finding a 44MAG or 44Spec chambering.

Already have, a friend has been offering to sell me his for a while. Just checked and its marked 44 mag.I thought it might have been 44sp with the 44 mag chamber like Scott T's.

mickbr

thanks Scott and if you ever chrono that load let me know. Id be interested to see what its doing from the carbine barrel.

mickbr

Black river smith, probably a 1873 in 44 mag/,marked 44sp as Scott T above has. I dont think all the modern repros are .429 , be nice if they were. I heard the win/mirokus are slugging well over .430. I have 44-40 data for 240 grain and I'd tailor my own anyhow, but thanks for the point. One questio...

mickbr

Thanks for the replies fellas I think the 44 sp will get the nod at this stage.

mickbr

Fellas with light powder charges what would your choice be between a 44 mag running 44 special brass and a 44-40? Main focus would be finding accurate loads around 1000-1200fps with 200-240 grain. Anything to suggest one will do better than the other? Anything else worth considering, brass life, cost?

mickbr

CS lewis was a smart guy. He and Tolkein were good buddies and bth survived ww1.They had seen the waste of human lives caused by monarchies and dictatorships

mickbr

I dont judge Elmer on his experimentation or long shots on game. No different driving a car too fast. Dangerous yes, unecessary yes, unethical yes, risk to other drivers yes... but we all like to do it every now and then. Also the past is like another country, they do things differently there.

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wvfarrier wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:45 pm I have previously used the 180 XTP and the Ranch Dog 190s but I wanna see if the extra velocity pays off.

Trajectory or effectivness? My feelings are a 180XTP probably doesnt get improved on by hardcast on medium game, but I'd be interested to learn otherwise.

mickbr

impressive guns, but have to admit they got about $1000 of fanciness I just dont need , nor can afford. To be honest I'd even be worried putting one down gently in the truck or boat.

For Six, I wish Rossi made one

mickbr

Cant agree with sixgun here. if lightings were faster/better they would taken over cowboy shooting matches by now. As to not needing Steve to work on them, LOL. The lightnings are the finnickiest type of firearm out there. Run a search on the wire or anywhere else " How do I get my lightning t...

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Cant agree with sixgun here. if lightings were faster/better they would taken over cowboy shooting matches by now. As to not needing Steve to work on them, LOL. The lightnings are the finnickiest type of firearm out there. Run a search on the wire or anywhere else " How do I get my lightning to...

mickbr

I only have two types of rifle on hand, a Ruger 96/22LR and my 2 Rossi 357's. I have to admit I would love just one novelty big gun like a 480 ruger or 500S&W though.

mickbr

thanks Doc, I mailed Bighorn and their rep Bryon got back to me and said he is not sure as they had never tried. There is an 18" barrel version nearby to me for sale. Wish it was the 22. I cant shake this urge to have a 50cal I dont really need

mickbr

Doc, regards your 500 S&W, ever tried running shorter cases in it? The 500 special or 500 JRH are both essentially shorter versions of the 500S&W, I think the JRH is about a 1.46" case and the special is 1.2" ish.

mickbr

my only two centrefire rifles are a pair of 357 magnum Rossis. Ranges here are short, under 150 yards. The ability to load subsonics is good to. In a younger life I was into big game rifles too- 375H&H, 2 x 416 rigby and a mark V lazermark in 460. Id say only the 375 was practical. They got sold...

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This isn't RBs but close enough, Just picked up an NOE 12ga 680-500-FN sabot slug double mold. Comes with pins to make solids :shock: and hollow base. With the HBs plan on using the Lyman shotgun load book for that one, but don't have a clue about loads for the solid. Anybody here have even close t...

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1894cfan, the more the merrier. Cant help with slug loads, would be interested to know myself.

mickbr

Thanks for all the advice on this bullet folks. I think as Doc and Jmiller say this doesnt have to pushed crazy. Going of the BC figures(for what they are worth), starting at 1450fps its still 1200+ at 100 yards. Should be a good game taker.

mickbr

Rob Leahy had that rifle before I did and he used it quite a bit in Alaska. I was on a motorcycle trip to either the Pacific coast or Las Vegas, and I dropped by. I traded Rob out of that rifle and strapped it to my Harley to bring it back to Texas. I remember riding in the dark and in a heavy rain...

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This forum is one the classiest out there. I still cant figure out its secret formula, but whatever it is, wish governments ran this way too.

mickbr

Anyone tried it. I was thinking of loading some subsonic to reduce the blast and at 550 odd grains Im guessing a RB will still penetrate like the dickens. Anyone know whether special wads or particulars are needed.

mickbr

Nice gun JimT. my only current centrefires are a pair of 20" 357 rossi 1892's.I handled them in store to make sure they would feed a variety of 38 special and 357 dummy rounds. One needed more work than the other to smooth up. I owned a 24" barrel rossi previously. With the small 357 hole ...

mickbr

great post Doc, and I have read that book. My mother had a copy in the 70's/ 80's. What would be dissappointing for me is that if they are real, is that they are so advanced we seem like cockroaches or amoebas to them. If they are just slightly smarter or more advanced tech we could at least have so...

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On another note, ESP is alive and well and here's the proof...... Have you noticed that there are many less posts on Rossi's? People don't even want to discuss Rossi's here anymore.....the ESP signals I send out catches in the gray matter of owners of such j.u.n.k. and the owners don't want to disc...

mickbr

308, 30-06 etc? Had a friend ask whether they could be loaded and I said the diameter works and I know people have done it, but I will run it by some knowledgeable folks I know for actual testimonials

mickbr

I've seen some strange martial art phenomenons but a lot fell under self hypnosis or power of suggestion. Some of these guys have entire dojos under control. Maybe that is a real power in itself?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOh2J1b3lQ

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Nothing novel to most of us but well written..... https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.357+Magnum.html I have doubts about this guy.. he mentions so many configurations on game, just in 357 he touts opinions on 50 different bullet combos... Also his comments about handgun hunting, pretty...

mickbr

an advantage of folding guns is quick deployment. They go from concealed in a daypack to longarm in 3 seconds.

mickbr

while they create two polarized teams and give each side labels to hiss at, we stay divided and conquered. Im surprised folks havent figured out this is all a work. We might as well put Vince Mcmahon in charge of the show now. Half the crowd backs hulk hogan, the other half the undertaker, the promo...

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jmiller wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:16 am You’re not going to get 1800 FPS with 180g XTP’s in your rifle.

Fellas over at thehighroad are and ruger forums in their 357/77. probably not published loads no but then neither are Paco's

mickbr

very nice look forward to a range report. I had a chiappa double badger 22lR/410 which folded right in half. It had some warranty issues and never got better than 5" groups at 50 yards any 22Lr ammo so I passed it on. Im a little warier of folding combo guns now but if the TPS has better accura...

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I was in the military then contracted in the 3rd world another decade. Stories like this are far too common and dont sound like PTSD to me. I think its the drugs they put soldiers on now when they come back. In the day, you got breifed about the effects of 'deployment fatigue' upon return. Tiredness...

mickbr

Heavy bullet in the little case, anyone used it? I have heard reports of pushing it almost 1800fps from carbines. I am thinking that is almost a large medium game load. Any reports for it at wheelgun speeds too?

mickbr

My grandad remarked upon things he saw out on the trail, stars moving in ways that didnt make sense. This would have been in the early 20th century, long before anyone had the tech to mimic it. He was a world war vet, not prone to flights of fancy, no PTSD or strong drink. As such I can only agree t...

mickbr

I knew guys shooting hawk bullets when I was into big game calibres decades ago. They have various jacket thicknesses and the guys liked them as they expand positively even at moderate velocities. nice to hear they are still kicking, I had not heard their name in a long time. No experience with them...

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hobie did you also post on accuratereloading about 15-20 yrs ago? I remember a handle like that over there.

mickbr

765x53 wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 12:48 pm
mickbr wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:16 am
765x53 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:52 am Reading comments on the internet kills brain cells.
Does that include gun forums
Sometimes.

As long as you dont lose them everytime I guess

mickbr

Ugly but interesting.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... ed-rifles/

mickbr

765x53 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:52 am Reading comments on the internet kills brain cells.

Does that include gun forums

mickbr

..make me chuckle at times. Just saw one vid on a guy shooting a 158XTP 38Sp +P load out of a 2" barrel. Video was good, he didnt get much expansion as predicted. he also didnt get much help from the comments... "Im guessing they make stronger powers?" "plus p, I dont believe the...

mickbr

It shoots as good as it looks. This is a Uberti 1873 US Marshal IT (Indian Territory) carbine in .44 Special. It actually appears to be chambered in .44 Magnum. Favorite load thus far is 16 gr of 2400 under a 240 grain flat point cast bullet. I imagine that is fairly close to .44-40 ballistics. Hi ...

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