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CowboyTutt

I have various loads in 454 and 454 "Long" for my stetched Puma action in both jacketed and lead. I'll be shooting them between Christmas and New Years. I'll let you know how it goes. Obviously a different rifle altogether than yours! Hope to catch you by phone on Saturday!

-Tutt

CowboyTutt

I work with 5 year olds. Prayers sent for the little man and for you.

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CowboyTutt

Buck, were your lead bullets gas-checked? That bullet weight in lead does sound promising and I may have to try some. I do like the Hornady 300 XTP Mag bullets which are JHPs but obviously could squeeze more velocity with your recomendation of a slightly heavier lead bullet. I have recovered many of...

CowboyTutt

Those are some smokin' loads, Buck!

I hope the current owner repairs the very small crack in the wood and beds the stock to make her shootable again. She needs a little TLC.

-Tutt

CowboyTutt

Aw geez, no big deal my friend!

Puma's weigh about 7 lbs and that 454 is the equal of a 45-70 with a 300 grain bullet, so do the math! Also, the factory recoil pad is a joke!

-Tutt

CowboyTutt

Cash, the recoil was not bad at all, even with the steel, shotgun-style buttplate (Good choice, Buck!). I would say it hurt less then my 454 Puma did with the original factory recoil pad. With the new squishy pad on the Puma its a toss up from standing. Bear in mind, that from off-hand even my 375 H...

CowboyTutt

Buck, I'd like to send you the full size versions of the pictures and I have more than what I posted. Can I burn them on to disc and mail them to you? It would be easier for me than using the internet. If you would PM me a mailing address I will get it out this week. Would you like to tell us more d...

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The rifle was made from scratch and its supposed to be about 1/4 shorter than an 86 according to its current owner. The internals I think are slightly different from an 86 but I will let Buck speak to that if he wants too. An F.A. levergun would be very, very expensive and they have no plans to buil...

CowboyTutt

By some strange co-inky-dink, I seem to be knowledgeable about, or involved in, the "cutting edge" of traditional leverguns chambered in the 454 Casull. I'm grateful to be a part of that process. And yes, I've spoken to none other than Bob Baker on the subject.

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CowboyTutt

If Buck says it is OK, I will post more pictures of it, including some of the internals, but only if its OK with him.

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CowboyTutt

Thanks Hobie. I just edited the article and also added the chambering in the first paragraph as I should have. Joe, I don't know the name of the peak in the background. Its east of Hotchkiss, CO. I always enjoy my visits out there. Yeah, I would have really enjoyed wringing her out more, but it wasn...

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Buck Elliot's Famous Rifle Well, I've been sitting on a little secret for almost a year now, and perhaps its time I finally tell. I had the pleasure of shooting Buck's famous prototype rifle in 454 Casull last April in Hotchkiss, CO. Its current owner, who resides in Alaska, is a friend of mine from...

CowboyTutt

why I have a '55 Sedan w/nice stock 350 and a '55 p/u with 425hp 427 and 4 speed!

Uh Griff? I want a ride in that '55 with the 427!!!!!! We have more in common than I thought! -Andy

CowboyTutt

I recently got some Buell paraphenalia, most of it only stuff available to dealers like the two posters, the "stick on" advertisements that are put on the bikes themselves to show Buell technology (bottom left 3 items), the dealer selling handbook (top right) and dealer sales tag (top left...

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Thanks guys. Its been a rocky relationship but we've made it for over a year now and hopefully we will resolve the only issue there has ever been (how to introduce me into the life of the kids and family). We have already made some very significant progress in this area. She is a very loving and aff...

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Hey NonPC you got pics of that bike yet?

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Thanks Nath! Can't let O.S. have all the fun all the time! They are blowing out Buell's over here. I got mine for $4600 off MSRP. The liquid cooled models are discounted more than the air-cooled ones. Maybe you should get one again while you can? PC, it was YOU who bought the Dyna?! I posted a threa...

CowboyTutt

"You wanna talk handling and mass centralization -----"-Old Savage

O.S., got one of those too. She's not for sale though!

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CowboyTutt

Madman, the current Buell air-cooled engines are completely reliable, make plenty of power for the street and are the "high water mark" of air-cooled Harley tech. However, your friend should be sure to use an oil-cooler as do the Buell bikes which also have a fan for added engine cooling. ...

CowboyTutt

Well, its amazing how much can change in 3 weeks. On October 15th Harley Davidson announced the closure of the Buell Motorcycle Company, its subsidiary. Erik Buell, the company founder, was a former Harley engineer who went solo and started his own company in 1983 making sport bikes with Harley Spor...

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I shoot smokeless in my original 71/84 Mauser named "Old 3120" because it is at least equally accurate to BP and probably more so, plus it doesn't corrode and I don't have to worry about prompt cleaning of cases and the bore. I would be very interested in Blackhorn if it was not so expensi...

CowboyTutt

Mike makes first class ammo alright. Looking forward to some field test results.

Yup, I totally agree!

-Tutt

CowboyTutt

Hey, not trying to get into a "peeing contest" over cartridges here! Were you somehow involved in having this bullet made? If so, I'm glad you did! There are other cartridges that I think can do the same though, even in a levergun. What's with the ALL CAPS?

-Tutt

CowboyTutt

Hey guys, one of us was going to pick-up his new '09 Harley Davidson Dyna Street Bob in pewter denim a few weeks back, but I can't remember who it was. Just wanted to check in with them and see how it was going and to ask them to post those "baby pics!"

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CowboyTutt

That is very respectable power and right on the heels of my 454 Puma with a 300 grain bullet. Nice!

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CowboyTutt

I'm not sure if any manufacturer tells the customer what is wrong in these cases. I had a Taurus Raging Bull that I sent back to the gunsmith who had last worked on it. He called to tell me what was wrong and sent it back to the factory. If I had not called Taurus, they would not have even told me w...

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I just want to say that I think that Bob is a wonderful human being, and a true gentleman. But he's very conservative in his interpretation of events relating to firearms and how he builds them. I think he takes the "worst case scenario" and builds his guns accordingly. But I still think m...

CowboyTutt

As for FA's quality control which was questioned above, I wouldn't even begin to question it. And even so, it would be the material supplier who supplies the steel stock who would be at fault, not FA. But knowing Bob Baker and working for him for 8 years you can count on taking him at his word...al...

CowboyTutt

LK, from what I'm reading here, there seems to be a connection between magnum primers and Lil'Gun in terms of high pressure and/or heat conditions. Secondly, have you compared your Hodgdon data with other manuals? I find the Hodgdon data to be on the "warm to hot side" when compared to oth...

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I confess I'm a little concerned about using this in my S&W 460 ES snubbie just because I'm using so much of it (40+ grains) but so far so good. Who doesn't set their gun down when the barrel gets hot?

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CowboyTutt

I've been using it for years in my 454 Puma and 454 Raging Bull. I have noticed that the rifle gets very hot but I give it a chance to cool down between shots as with all my rifles. Sounds like I do need to do a visual inspection of the barrels and forcing cones though. Thanks for passing on the inf...

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Jeremy, the Enfield does indeed have better sights. I was playing around with it at 400 yards but could not see the impacts well enough to adjust what I was doing. Hard to see while in recoil at that range. I still have some 303 ammo left, so may take another stab at that next time. One things for s...

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Hey guys, I just got back from my second attempt to put my 71/84 Mauser named "Old 3120" on paper at long range. A while back, someone had reported shooting an 18" group at 300 yards I think it was, and someone responded by saying it was "only true in his head and the Internet&qu...

CowboyTutt

I just read about the Fast Fire II in "The Legacy of Leverguns", the special edition put out by Rifle Magazine. It says inside that Turnbull Restorations offers a dovetail mount for them and shows a pic of it. It looks very good and I'm interested to hear about how well your set-up works f...

CowboyTutt

76/444, I'm trying to think of a way to say this that will have some meaning to you. What your trying to do is actually very advanced handloading. If you were my friend Mic McPherson, who is a ballistician with a lot of lab time and experience on how different powders types react under certain condi...

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But I forget myself, for I know the next grips are YK's FAVORITE! They strike terror into any two or 4 legged vermin who see them (also very easy to find inside that black duffle bag!)

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I like my grips to be functional, not just beautiful. Here are some grips made for my Accusport Bisley in 45 Colt. These were made from Purple Heart Wood that I sent to Carey at CLC grips. They involved many coats of True Oil, the headstamp from Hornady 45 Colt cases, and his "tear drop" d...

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Somebody better call Mike Venturino!

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Hey Steve, I'm very glad that the forum (Joe and Chuck!) could help you out for once, instead of the usual other way around!

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Hey Tycer, thanks for the info! Thanks for posting Brother. My BLR is the lightest and easiest-to-carry rifle I own. They really are a "hunters choice" of a rifle.

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Win 40-82, I'm with Kirk. There is no better way to use such a fine old rifle! Kirk, I'm sure I'll try the TP thing with 4198 someday. Right now I use my Mauser in single-shot mode so its no trouble to tip her up as I load her. Very natural action. I'm thinking its about time to use her in "rep...

CowboyTutt

My rifle is a 1878 Miroku vintage.

Thats quite some antique you got there Doc!

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CowboyTutt

I just made a phone call to my Shootist friend Jim Williamson to be sure I got my facts straight. We (Mic McPherson, Jim Williamson and myself) were considering TB for our 43 Mausers. As a side-bar, we settled on Blue Dot and a LP primer that worked extremely well with the new 485 grain bullet. This...

CowboyTutt

Interesting about the "rough barrel" thing. Keep us posted on that. My 358 is very accurate as well. The trigger was way heavy for my poor, anemic trigger finger :P but after a trigger job by McPherson it is the best trigger out of any of my rifles and they ALL have trigger jobs. I think y...

CowboyTutt

Leaving ANY SPACE BETWEEN TB POWDER AND BULLET will result in pressure problems,.... per, Hogdgon phone tech. I think this sentence pretty much says it all. I also would not want to fill a 43 Mauser case to the base of the bullet with TB and put it into my old 71/84 Mauser with its single rear lock...

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That is a goofy phrase, isn't it? :lol: I guess what I mean is that even TB can't fill some of the very large BP cases without the pressure being too high because of its fast burn rate. We could really use a powder with a similar grain structure but slower burn rate which would allow more case filli...

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Kirk, as you said, Trail Boss is a very fast burning powder. We need something just as bulky but with a slower burn rate. I've seen recipies for 50 BMG powders in even my 43 Mauser cases. Most of the powder proceeds unburned down the barrel in those that have actually tried this combination. This is...

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Kirk, one of the Shootists works for Hodgdon Powders and Mic McPherson has told me that he does not recommend Trail Boss in large empty cases so I think your original thought on that powder was correct. I'm surprised no one mentioned 5744 which was designed as a smokeless BP substitute and it does v...

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It sounds like a neat caliber for shooting and some hunting and is probably easy on the shoulder like my 43 Mauser. However, that bullet weight won't do the very long range work I personally like to do. Nice post, Kirk D.!

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